Sunday, May 31, 2009

Organic Dairies Watch the Good Times Turn Bad

RANDOLPH CENTER, Vt. — When Ken Preston went organic on his dairy farm here in 2005, he figured that doing so would guarantee him what had long been elusive: a stable, high price for the milk from his cows.

Sure enough, his income soared 20 percent, and he could finally afford a Chevy Silverado pickup to help out. The dairy conglomerate that distributed his milk wanted everything Mr. Preston could supply. Supermarket orders were skyrocketing.

Yes we can

Yes We Can



A little while ago I posted a test "private" post to see if approved people could see. If you can, please drop a comment so we can know if we can have safe private conversations.

Ted Rall: It’s increasingly evident that Obama should resign

(gotta love this guy Rall!)
We expected broken promises. But the gap between the soaring expectations that accompanied Barack Obama’s inauguration and his wretched performance is the broadest such chasm in recent historical memory. This guy makes Bill Clinton look like a paragon of integrity and follow-through.

From health care to torture to the economy to war, Obama has reneged on pledges real and implied. So timid and so owned is he that he trembles in fear of offending, of all things, the government of Turkey. Obama has officially reneged on his campaign promise to acknowledge the Armenian genocide. When a president doesn’t have the nerve to annoy the Turks, why does he bother to show up for work in the morning?

read the rest here

OpEdNews: klown kar kontinues

First-   jut a chance to introduce this image:


courtesy of Tony Forest

Second:  to emphasize what Ladyums has said:  "you can have all the free speech you want as long as it is not effective speech."

Third: to point out this thread before it is taken down-- that klown-kar-Kall introduced and will not go dormant (so far) because he is so desperately trying to spin his snake-oil salesman self-interest spot in cyberland as anything other than Vichy "spin-the-story."

Obama Youth ("City Year")

When I heard Obama’s speech, in July before the election, where he uttered these words .. “We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security goals we’ve set. We’ve  gotta have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong,  just as well funded. “  I felt chills.  Not in the “yes we can”  sign me up to help out our country kinda  way.  But in an, oh my god, this sounds just like Hitler youth  kinda way.   That speech has always haunted me.  Now, here we are today just months after the inauguration and we have Obama Youth, better known as “City Year”, already in full swing in cities all across the country.

Videos included

Obama walks a fine line over mining

"With the election of President Obama, environmentalists had expected to see the end of the "Appalachian apocalypse," their name for exposing coal deposits by blowing the tops off whole mountains.

But in recent weeks, the administration has quietly made a decision to open the way for at least two dozen more mountaintop removals."

More here.

Last word

I just posted what will probably be my final comment on OEN- there or here.

I spent the years 1963-89 in Berkeley and saw much of the civil rights, anti-Vietnam and free speech action there. I also got very used to seeing certain people target the press and assume 'leadership' postures in what were essentially consensus activities.


Our culture and power structure are antithetical to real democracy, which is by definition messy. Opportunists and parasites are quick to co-opt whenever they can and dilute serious efforts. I imagine you know the ones I'm talking about: when movements were in they came in late to get some action, and fifteen years later you found them standing around talking real estate. The Democratic Party loved them.


It was inevitable that OEN would pull back from real issues and join in with the Corporate party's efforts to manipulate opinion and diffuse dissent. Safety valves are very helpful to the power other words you can have all the free speech you want as long as it is not effective speech. Once you have an impact, all bets are off.


It is definitely time for me to move on.

Now it's time to get back to rabble rousing!

the company we keep. Dch!

“Last week, a comment spammer who contributed $50 a month was banned”

Stop me if you heard this

I don’t know whether any of you are interested in the fraud of finance, from the coin in your piggy-bank to the forty to sixty quadrillion in the tax-exempt ‘Trusts’. But just in case -

Original: Reader, you don’t honestly think any ‘publisher’ would let this through, do you? This is secret information. However, it was posted as ‘a comment’, received much admiration for its penetrating information, was copied and appeared elsewhere, and now is a much-read text.

WHO exactly is causing planetary overheating?

Israel tests response to 'doomsday'

Israel has begun its largest-ever defence drill, testing the response of its emergency services to a "doomsday scenario" of missile attacks, bombings and natural disasters.

The five-day national exercise got under way on Sunday, with defence officials playing down any connection to recent and growing tensions with Iran.

What I've Been Looking For

What I see here is what I was once told OpEdLose was. Discovered on November 4, 2008 that they were corporate owned whether they knew it or not.

Not sure which is worse selling your soul or being so distracted someone reaches in and takes it. What do y'all think? Person who introduced me was an old college friend who is owned by OpEdLose. If I ever hear from her again I'll have to ask her - LOL.

Never signed up cuz...not much of a joiner plus there were too many that were filtering The Truth. Then saw people were taking on Monsanto and I had some hope. Before I knew it some of my favorite commenters were disappearing...but here you are! I'm home.

Not much of a writer, but maybe I can help find some good info to link to.

Resist and then some,

Saturday, May 30, 2009

Here's your pic Mike. private post, no one can see...

[caption id="attachment_213" align="alignnone" width="300" caption="RNC '08 Report"]RNC '08 Report[/caption]

just right click on the image and hit "save image"

is this the one you wanted? :38 seconds in.

Once you get this, please let someone know and Admins can delete post.

(O/T) Hey, did you guys hear? An author just put up a million dollar bounty for anyone who is directly responsible for bringing Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Blair up before any judge anywhere, for war crimes and crimes against humanity.

$1 Million Dollar Bounty

Okay, I've just posted a comment

... on AJ site, and all of a sudden the picture I placed on my "gavatar" shows-up, and I really wouldn't have minded that too much if it weren't for the fact that I just pissed in the punchbowl of someone named "reconmarine" that was defending the Abu Graib rape pictures not being released ...

so  not only does this sick prick now know my moniker,  I've supplied him with a recent photo of myself ...

I'm still learning what to do here ... I don't even know where the hell this comment will show-up, hell, it might go straight to Napolitano's desk ...

I tried uploading a toon, god knows where the hell that is ...

and we're supposed to defeat the NWO with leadership like this?

Ahoy! Everyone

I do hope I'm at the right place?  The directions they gave me was to make a right then a left, and as soon as I seen the eye of the needle, to just put the pedal to the metal.


I would like to thank those who put this site together. God bless you all. Freedom from the tyranny, where I hear everyone can post multiple dissenting viewpoints and not be banished for doing so.  Are we allowed to curse though? Words such as fornicate?  Please, don't mind my silly English humor.  And I promise they'll be no spam either.


If I could just take a moment to note that I am utterly appalled at the way some members at "OpEdSnooze" are depicting Rady.  One person that posted at Rob's inane, so called "Truth" thread was acting as though Rady were there.  However, she wasn't.  Extremely bad form.  Many posts were like that of the little children in the classroom, knowing their teacher would be out for the day, and having their way with the substitute.  It won't last too much longer though.  That's quite Obvious. 


Now that I'm here,  for now I have this say    R I P  Keith Moon


COTO  knows

Al Franken, Michael Moore and Single Payer Healthcare

Please note: This article was denied by Op Ed Snooze.


Ad Hominem attacks on COTO-No Problem

Adoration of war criminal president Barack Obama-No problem

Silencing dissent and then lying about it-No problem.

Local COTO Boy Does Good- Becomes Movie Star

Hey COTO Family.

I just recieved this. In fact I do not even know how to produce the actual full screen shot. Perhaps some of you all could help me.

Anyway, now while this may not be as big time as Stephen Lesser on Faux Snooze (please note sarcasm)but it is still
pretty cool.

This is a documentary that some young people from Ohio put on about the RNC in St Paul last year. I was interviewed in it and you can watch the documentary here.

While some like Stephen Lesser and Rob Kall may get that
golden microphone, these kids went out and created their own. just like we are here. We do not need Op Ed Snooze, Faux Snooze or the Noow Yawk Times.

It is only 45 minutes, so enjoy.

Redefining Torture: The Mancow/Keith-O Show

by Scott Creighton

I have deliberately stayed out of the Mancow/water-boarding fiasco because I just can’t stand obvious propaganda and PR moves. I don’t care what side of the pretend left/right divide it comes from, it’s just stagnate BS one way or the other.

But today, someone wrote something about this insipid little sideshow that absolutely reflected what I thought the day after it happened.  And my take on this whole thing isn’t going to be what you think it is going to be. They seemed to suggest it was all staged, a "put-on" for the publicity.
Of course it’s fake. All bullshit. But now the real question is “why?”.

What have you done for me lately?

Seduced and abandoned....the same old story.

Whether it's the Democrats, OEN or, wherever progressives congregate, the elitists seize the leadership and water down the issues, shut down any effective protest, and sell out at the first opportunity.

As Paul Street writes in his article: 

Five Key Lessons Beyond the Gnashing of Radical Teeth

"What Exists of a Popular Left..."  

The Dunne Briefs – US Government NOC list


April 20, 2009 - No Responses

Bruce E. Ivins – was a microbiologist and vaccinologist at the USAMRIID who supposedly committed suicide on July 27th 2008 rather than face criminal indictment, trial and possible execution for the Amerithrax investigation by the Federal Bureau of Investigation.  After what is reported to be an exhaustive investigation, the source of the high-grade anthrax was traced back to a Pentagon lab, which implicated Ivins as the prime suspect in 2006.  This six year investigation involved supposedly hundreds of suspect investigations. Why was there such a rush finally to resolve this case before George Bush left office? Might the resolution be needed to avoid a new administration and Attorney General to look into the faulty evidence and conclusions or assuming the investigation under new leadership? Even FBI director Mueller identified the investigation as “embarrassing” and “poorly handled.”

CIA Recipe Book – Rendition Home Brew

Why the 911 hijackers were not Al-Qaeda or Taliban and why the detainees will be our future bin-Ladens – 9/11/08


When the CIA released 18,000 pages regarding MK-ULTRA, it represented the cleaned version of what was destroyed by Richard Helms CIA director in 1973. These programs were supposed to have been abandoned under the claim that they were never able to succeed in the DELTA application of any of the 150 projects created. However, there is no conclusive evidence the CIA actually succeeded in controlling a person’s actions through mind control.  The documents destroyed would have included:  JFK (Oswald) , RFK (Sirhan Sirhan) and other DELTA successes. To this day Sirhan has no knowledge of his actions.

History of Israeli spying on the US

May 10, 2009 - No Responses

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9/11 Shock Opera… Act 4 – Building 7 and Flight 93: The Grand Finale that Wasn’t

Prologue: The Premise

Scott Creighton

Take yourself back to that day when you watched or listened to the attack on America; the day that everything changed. Remember where you were, who you were with, and most importantly, how you felt.

cnn_911_screenThink about the last few events of that day; how the news of the Pentagon being hit by something was followed almost immediately by the unexpected complete collapse of the South Tower (WTC 2). Remember how we had barely recovered from that shock, one that we were forced to watch in horror over and over again, when the unspeakable happened; the North Tower (WTC 1) fell in exactly the same way at an eerie and almost supernatural speed as plumes of smoke and steel columns flung across city blocks.

Now I want you to put yourself in that very moment, once again, and prepare yourself for the missing final act that never took place and yet may still be one of the most telling and condemning pieces of evidence in the ongoing unofficial investigation of 9/11.

Friday, May 29, 2009

Apology Accepted

Owed an Apology

It's been over 100 days. I am now prepared to accept the apologies of those who worked to put Obama in the White House.

Remember your effusive praise, how you touted him as being different than Bush? You accused people of being a sectarian, and out of touch with reality, if they refused to vote for him. You said he was leading a progressive movement - the beginning of a bright new era of politics.

You owe an apology to me and everyone else that spoke the truth about Obama. We said he would continue the Bush policies. We told you so.

As in... "Private Thread"... as in None but us...

Here is your happy place.  You may chat as you wish without concern about Rob or Steve or other "Managing Editors" hanging around and watching what you are doing, saying, wearing... because trust me, they already are... Just the people on the right over there can see this (I think Administrators, Editors, Authors, Contributors can ALL see this, but you should ask everyone on a public thread just to make sure...)

And by the way, I read that guys post this morning and I watched it go away very quickly from the top post... if I can figure out who he is by what you put up, so can Rob...

The Rumkowski Rabbits


Nothing heavy here.  Just a sweet little parable about bunnies... and left-gatekeeper websites.

Avast ye Mateys, this is Capt. Dunne

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Some News and requests

1. I have posted the Rob Kall response provided by Rady, please review.

2. I haved formally been banned today. All COTO needs to respond to their status with a comment.

3. I have activated all COTO members who have signed up correctly. You should review the tabs on the COTO main page image for information on posting versus commenting and getting your desired Avitar/Gravitar uploaded.

4. Any who have not been banned should message any fellow COTO's who are not banished and get them to join.

Saw this on Information Clearinghouse

May 29, 2009 by flakstopper

Who will Stand Up To America and Israel?

Well, if you will bring me the Rothschilds and Rockefellers, and the Bilderbergers and a thousand or so of their financiers and an assortment of their politicos from around the world whom they bribe and blackmail to hold the innocents of the world in thrall, and if you will be so kind as to lend me a machinegun and enough ammunition, in about two minutes I will make a pretty decent fist at it.

And I will do it for nothing and with a clear conscience at ridding the world of the most dangerous pack of vermin to trouble the planet in millions of years.

Are you on?

Now, that’s a sentiment I could live with.

How about you?


Rob Kall explains COTO banishment


Over the past week, a lot of outright lies have been told about OpEdNews and me personally. Here's an accounting of what really happened.

The DLC/Progressive Muting of Liberal Dissent

(ok. I am not going to spam up your site here, but I feel the need to post this. Many of you don't know who I am. Perhaps there is a matter of trust that needs to be established. So I will put this up here in the hope that you get a better feel for who I am and my history with OpEd News.  Lets just say I was COTO before COTO was cool (catchy, huh?). The following was posted on my site after my banning from Op Ed News, Nov. 16th 2008. It shows with screen shots and quotes that Rob Kall has been systematicly suppressing "Obama dissent" for some time and removing comments that point out that fact.)

by Scott Creighton

Once proud bastions of critical thinking and informed dissent are quietly transitioning into not so subtlety regulated echo-chambers for “topic positioning” of progressive discourse. It used to be that progressive and liberal “alternative” sites would pride themselves on the free and open exchange of ideas. That was before the run-up to the election and the muting of the far left that followed directly after “their candidate” won. It would seem, that the very same people that criticized the right-wing trolls for not being capable of examining the actions of their president, are in fact suffering from the same ailment themselves; blind, submissive loyalty to “party”. The level of hypocrisy is stunning but not unexpected.

Case in point: Rob Kall, Op Ed News

Serious Problems With Jim Hoffman’s “A Hypothetical Blasting Scenario ” Makes His Recent Essay Far From “Plausible”

(I am posting this from my site in the interest of getting some feedback from the COTO crew to this question: why would Jim Hoffman, a fairly respected researcher and speaker in the Truth movement,  produce such a ridiculous hypothesis the same day that Jones and the others published their new paper?  And perhaps more importantly, why would Steven Jones refer to it as a "reasonable theory" on how his "nano-thermite" discovery was used?)

by Scott Creighton

Jim Hoffman has just published his essay ” A Hypothetical Blasting Scenario:  A Plausible Theory Explaining the Controlled Demolition of the Twin Towers Using Aluminothermic Incendiaries and Explosives with Wireless Ignition Means” in time for it to coincide with the new Jones et al piece, “Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe” and quite frankly, Hoffmans work is structurally unsound.

Thursday, May 28, 2009

COTO Tenets



  1. You believe a better name for our “two party” electoral system is the “United Corporate Party of America”.

  2. You didn’t vote for either Obama or McCain in the last election and instead voted for a third party candidate e.g.… Nader, McKinney or Ron Paul OR didn’t vote at all because your vote doesn’t count anyway. 

  3. You do not believe the official “fairytale” of 9/11.  You want a real investigation into what happened that day and know from doing your own exhaustive research that it was an inside job.

  4. You know our govt. invaded Iraq and Afghanistan for imperialistic and monetary reasons & had nothing to do with 9/11. You also know, for those reasons, the “war on terrors” is a lie.

Wednesday, May 27, 2009

Rob Kall and OEN ban dissenters and truthers

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posted by Laudyms

Rob Kall sent out a special email to just some OEN members:


Cleaning up OEN and Changing OEN Policy on Edge Topics

Most progressive sites refuse to cover 911 truth and more exotic topics, like UFOs, NWO and conspiracy theories.  OEN has covered them and it has brought some problems, particularly a crew of unpleasant, negative commenters who attack just about every article published, particularly ones by higher visibility writers. We've decided to clean things up, so we're cracking down on this crew,  holding firmer to rules aganst spamming articles and personal attacks and name calling. The goal is to maintain our open forum for discourse-- a forum that this small group has effectively intimidated and turned off.

Diary Post from Tradesman

rady-banned-mr m banned-others and maybe more??what happened to free speach???/


how can a country stand togather when a web site cannot??

banning people from their say-is a reflection of our country--so why does oen news want  to be a reflection of our country --the sad shape it is in???-

e mail rob and tell him to stop banning members from having their say-

stew isnt stew without the meat--


Patrick adds

I have messaged [OEN]  Boomerang and Tradesman to invite them

Welcome aboard COTO CREW

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This is captain patrick;

Please follow the instructions on how to build our new ship.  Please go to and sign up for a free blog account. My suggestion is we use the same usernames we had on  OEN but that is up to you.

username: EG Waldopaper


Select: Gimme a Blog

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Enter name and profile if you want. An email will be sent.  Confirm email and activate your site.

Choose login to your site with username and password and go to users on the left series of tabs and select your profile.

Please add your Gravitar [the image for your comments]

You can go through all the set up for your personal blog, when and if you choose to.

Once you have finished, please send me an email with the email you used for your account and then I will add you to the membership of this COTO Blog as an author and contributor.

1. You can then post articles, thoughts, comments and we will all be connected to share and comment.

2. We can identify other bloggers who are like minded to join as well as view some of the two party punch drinkers articles posted by the sheeple and comment on their blog articles.

3. We can reference/link OPN authors and create or comments here instead

4. We can send new members to OEN to become new COTO posters and drive them insane.

5. Those of us who can still access OEN can notify other OEN-COTO types to migrate here if they miss us too much.

Feel free to comment here on this once you get set up.  If you need any personal help you can call me at 888.357.1254 ext. 81 and I will help.