Sunday, July 15, 2012

WTC: Recommended reading

 http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/thermite/blasting_scenario.html

recommended by Hybridrogue1







A Hypothetical Blasting Scenario


A Plausible Theory Explaining the Controlled Demolition of the Twin Towers Using Aluminothermic Incendiaries and Explosives with Wireless Ignition Means


by
Jim Hoffman
Version 1.0, April 4, 2009
Version 1.2, April 9, 2009

Introduction




Most science-based investigators of the events of 9/11/2001 are reluctant to develop detailed hypotheses or conjectures for obvious reasons: to speculate about unknown events in a criminal conspiracy is to invite the label of "conspiracy theorist" with its weight of discrediting associations, unless, of course, one is parroting the speculations of the officially endorsed account. read more

26 comments:

  1. This Patent [ http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5505799.PN.&OS=PN/5505799&RS=PN/5505799 ]

    sits with the Harrit paper [ http://www.benthamscience.com/open/tocpj/articles/V002/7TOCPJ.htm ]

    And both pertain to Mr. Hoffman's very practical hypothesis. It makes sense.

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  2. I went over to Truth and Shadows to have a peek at what's happening there. Too bad WooWoo is frowned on. Sure describes some of the views on subject I read. Between the official NIST crap to the DEW, NPT fairy tale on the other side of the spectrum, it's pretty obvious that what did happen and how it came about to be so is being buried by this junk for the obvious reason to confuse the issue to the point that any one looking in from the outside will be dissuaded from being able to grasp what their senses have told them that there's serious gaps of logic in the official story of 9/11

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  3. boomerangcomesbackJuly 15, 2012 at 4:20 PM

    I haven't taken the time to read your recommended info here yet, Rogue1, but I will. I also know if its gone through your BS machinery, then it has been rigorously processed beyond the scope of most folks analytical skills.

    I just saw this recently at http://vaticproject.blogspot.com/2012/07/usa-space-lasers-does-gulf-blow-out.html, and I don't put it here to muddy the waters. Rather, COTO already is aware of the probabilities of funked out weaponized wonder weapons being wielded by flat out crazy kooks. And the sheeple go "baah", and think metal buildings melt and fall from kerosene fires, blah, blah, blah. I say, "99% of what the 1% say are Lies", and yeah, we're going to see it proved out.

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  4. boomerangcomesbackJuly 15, 2012 at 6:02 PM

    Yeah, Rogue1. I read it. Sounds plausible enough. Certainly more so than NIST and "the Story". WTC7 still represents the Smoking Gun shooting down the ridiculous 19 Arabs with box cutters meme, as no plane hit it. The psy-op counted on the gullibility of most folks to swallow whole the spew circulated by MSMedia as "truth". Interestingly, most folks still believe the MSM pundits, T-heads, bankers, politicians, and every other charlatan masquerading as an expert, authority, or newsmaker. The hoi polloi just don't seem to get they're the "marks", the consumers, the goyim. If EVER they do make this all important connection to the way the world works, then that is the time when the Towers of Babylon will tumble.

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  5. I accept all things up to B-thing and DEW. What brought them down is secondary to what could possible stand them back up again. I know i haarp on that.

    The question is would any of them really surprise you? B-thing BETA TEST is a constant in DoD, Naval intel. Even the Mafia in Chicago says "Never waste an opportunity. From mountains of early information and vigilant guardian, I know the secret military aircraft and NASA must have gone through a few rolls of film that day. ;)

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  6. [Lasers have been studied for their usefulness in air defense since 1973, (VN: I call that the Kissinger, Brezsinzki era of neocons controlling our government) when the Mid Infrared Advanced Chemical Laser (MIRACL) was first tested against tactical missiles and drone aircraft. Work on such systems continued through the 1980s, (VN: Bush Sr era), you know, Mr. NWO and a 1000 points of light which was an occult reference)]

    Just science fiction and 1000 points of light is the committee of 300, the fortune 500 golbalist corp and a few hundred foundation or NGO media fronts.

    That's your "1000 point of light" Magog spoke of.

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  7. I send this message to all Amsterdam, City of London visitors. "We know 911 was a french job. Oh wait that was JFK, it was you behind 911. Sorry I can't keep up with the union.

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  8. http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/07/15/the-911-watershed-event-towering-infernos-false-flags-and-the-global-war-on-terrorism/

    Good to see recent recap of WTO-WOT schema.

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  9. MVC

    http://heim.ifi.uio.no/~trygver/themes/mvc/MVC-2006.gif

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  10. sunstein : to 'congnitively Infiltrate' extremist groups openly or anonymously, to undermine the 'identified' 'crippled epistemology' of those who subscribe to such theories by planting doubts with 'countermisinformation' [I kid you not], introducing 'beneficial cognitive diversity', thus 'immunizing third party audiences' by 'Government formally hiring credible private parties' [CPP] to engage 'counter speech', 'Outsourcing quasi-propaganda to an independent contractor' [Conspiracy therories. pp28.Sunstein/Vermule.]

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  11. boomerangcomesbackJuly 16, 2012 at 4:07 AM

    "National Security" means something completely different to the guardians of the Corporation doesn't it? Aside from all the surveillance camera footage of the Pentagon FF which was swept up and never has seen the light of day, you bring up an excellent point most folks don't consider -- those astounding photographic capabilities of satellites, Military planes, and other Big Nasty Brother agencies. Haven't seen hide nor hair of their takes on 9/11. It is absolutely silly to think the Entire Military was hoodwinked that day by those pesky Arabs and their flying machines, aye?!

    What is missing -- from the scene of this crime, and the follow-up (and lack of follow up) is as damning as the inconsistencies noted.

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  12. boomerangcomesbackJuly 16, 2012 at 4:12 AM

    It is so reassuring that HLS and other "People Protection Agencies" are gearing up to Protect the People! I feel so safe...

    "Preparing for Civil War: Chart Shows DHS Has Bought Hundreds of Millions of Rounds of Ammo Since 2009"

    See CHART -- its rather lengthy:

    http://theintelhub.com/2012/07/15/preparing-for-civil-war-chart-shows-dhs-has-bought-hundreds-of-millions-of-rounds-of-ammo-since-2009/

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  13. Agree. It's pathetic to think incompetence plays any part in 'things' NSA. Gestapo origins suggest the interior ministry DHS, and the Stormtroopers would eventually be ruled by the SS, secret service and revenuers.
    It's all the same. Just American macaroni with cheese version. Krafty devils.

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  14. confirms the enchilada, illustrates the taco.... coto virus not pictured ;)

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  15. Geheime Staats Polizei - Himmler became Chief of the German Police and SS leader. Herr Heydrich proved to be something of a genius in creating a hugely efficient national intelligence system that kept tabs on the population and the entire Nazi hierarchy.

    The Nazi Reichstag passed the 'Gestapo Law' which that neither the instructions nor the affairs of the Gestapo will be open to review by the administrative courts. The Gestapo was now above the law and there could be no legal appeal regarding anything it did.

    And so goes the administration.

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  16. boomerangcomesbackJuly 16, 2012 at 12:56 PM

    Yessum... it got reposted at "beforeitsnews".

    http://beforeitsnews.com/story/2388/736/The_9_11_Watershed_Event_:_Of_Towering_Infernos,_False_Flags_the_Global_War_on_Terrorism.html

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  17. http://www.film-news.co.uk/show-news.asp?H=Jet-crashes-near-Pitt-Jolie-chateau&nItemID=13000
    A private jet crashed and killed three people near Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie’s French estate.

    A Gulfstream IV plane that departed from Nice crashed Friday afternoon at the Castellet airport, which is located in the south of France just minutes from the superstar couple’s chateau, Miraval.

    The three American crew members who perished in the tragedy are reported to be a 30-year-old female and two men, ages 24 and 61.

    “The plane broke in half -- one part ended up in the lake at the end of the runway and the other half caught on fire,” a source told X17 Online.

    The Pitt-Jolie clan frequently catch flights from Castellet airport and often ride on Gulfstream IV private jets.

    No members of the family were injured in the crash and they have not been connected to the event in any way.

    Angelina and her brood are currently in London while she films Maleficent.

    +33 4 94 98 39 99


    http://newsfeedresearcher.com/data/articles_w29/airport-plane-france.html

    Three, Five, Six? How many. Who's dead? Who else was on the plane? Coverup.

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  18. boomerangcomesbackJuly 18, 2012 at 11:20 AM

    Hey M, ya seen this old "premonition" in a 1979 comic book?

    http://mercurysgarden.blogspot.com/2008/11/marvel-two-in-one-100-wtc-ruins-taken.html

    Scroll down to the burned out WTC's with the Nazi flag flying over them.

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  19. How funny...I just saw this thread tonight...

    I have some very serious reasons to doubt the "New Wave 9/11 Truth" movement...as close inspection of the "reasoning" building these new "theories" are rather more like bowl movements than what the original "movement" brought to the table.

    In fact the New Wave is a contrived dialectic...it is not really hypothesis and theory, but a sales pitch. All of it to put into disrepute the hard evidence, imagery, data and reasoned arguments - this "No-Planes"_"Video Fakery"_ "Holograms"_ "Space Beams", new age package is simply bullshit.

    I have proved this point on point, going toe to toe with the instigators.

    What is more, there are several moles that were in on the action early on that are - in a pincer movement pushing from the opposite direction towards the 'official story' - this is lead primarily by Frank Legge, who has contaminated quite a few with his fall back position.

    As far as the WTC. Remember the basics of forensics. There are signature characteristics to all physical events. The destruction of the towers has ALL of the physical characteristics of a controlled demolition by chemical explosives. Any new theory is going to have to have the ability to perfectly mimic every single one. An explanation must be given for the needless redundancy if something like DEW, or Mini-Nukes are proposed, as well as actual verifiable proofs of such exotica.

    I will guarantee everyone here that there is simply no substance to such assertions, again it is all speculation based on assumptions and a long series of maybes.

    The nitty gritty is not what COULD have happened - but what the actual evidence proves DID happen.

    If I would have realized this post was here I would have put up the commentary on this newer thread - as it is I have already done so on one of my old posts:

    http://cotocrew.wordpress.com/2011/08/08/scragged-again/

    Jet Impacts on WTC Towers 9/11/2001
    Analysis by Willy Whitten – August and September 2012

    { A Digest of the argument presented on Truth & Shadows:
    http://truthandshadows.wordpress.com/2012/08/15/contrived-ridicule-of-conspiracy-theories-really-means-stop-questioning-stop-thinking/ }

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  20. Sample Argument with "Professor" Jim Fetzer:


    hybridrogue1 says, September 1, 2012 at 12:23 pm

    >”So do you believe that 150 tons traveling more than 500 mph came to a screeching halt in .065 of a second?”~Fetzer
    . . . . . . . . . . . . .

    Lol…WTF??

    YOU are the one that thinks this happened as the jet hit the façade, it is the core of your crackpot argument.

    It is simply preposterous to claim that there is no limit to kinetic energy as an argument against kinetic energy.

    You must really take the readership here as a bunch of fools if you think they aren’t going to see through this con-job you are attempting here.
    ….......

    hybridrogue1 says, September 1, 2012 at 11:08 pm

    In the argument above, Fetzer even cites the wrong Newtonian Law:

    >”Were Newton’s first and second laws ALSO suspended?”~Fetzer asks…

    The first and second laws were in effect – as I have noted, up to the point of impact.

    It is at the point and moment of impact that the third law comes into effect and must be translated as per the laws of kinetics incorporating the maxim of equal and opposite reaction – [which Fetzer has shown he misapprehends as well.

    KINETICS 9/11:

    The energy equals one half the mass times the velocity squared: ( E = 1/2 m v^2)

    The plane has a Mass of 120 tons – traveling at a Velocity of 540 MPH:

    The kinetic energy resulting would be equal to 0.75812 ton TNT

    OR: 3.1720e+9 joules (watt second)
    ….......

    So, let's put together what we now know about the crash physics for this event:

    This explosive energy, equivalent to about ¾ ton of TNT is applied as a directed force – vector quality – against the structure of the façade at the points on the structure corresponding to the shapes of the entering jet {the shapes change because of original contours meeting at different moments, plus deformations from impact.

    We also have verification that the energy was applied externally from a video analysis shows a measurable rocking back of the building in reaction to the impact. This movement is imperceptible to the human eye until seen in a grid.
    An interior explosion would create a radial blast lacking vector.

    This is overwhelming evidence that real jets impacted and penetrated the towers.

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  21. Hey Fremo,

    Thanks for commenting. You have been here before, and always make an intelligent observation.

    You obviously have kept abreast of the continuing PSYOP 9/11.

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  22. I have identified the Sunstein NGO op working the Truth & Shadows blog; I call them the F-Troop, as at the head of it is James Fetzer - "Professional Conspiracy Theorist", he has two others running interference for him.

    One of these is called Tamborine man, a loopy new age guru type that doesn't know diddly about physics, but is capable of writing long convoluted rhetorical bullshit.

    The other is a phony foil: Onebornefree, a James Bond movie villain right out of central casting...complete with bald head and large black eye-patch. He sells Simon Shack "Video Fakery"...and like Shack hasn't a clue to what he is talking about.

    Every time Fetzer is getting nailed with facts and data that show he is a charlatan, one of these other two posts a long comment of maniacal drivel - breaking the flow of the argument.

    Or Onebornfree starts an obviously scripted argument with Fetzer to draw his commentary away so he doesn't have to answer to his critics....

    It is so obvious after having this same tactic played out on thread after thread for months on end now.
    _______

    This is actually a fascinating study in the technique of disinformation by an actual Sunsteinian team.

    . . . . . . . . .

    Also I want to thank Puddy for posting this. It is good to have a current COTO post up so near the eleventh anniversary.

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  23. Yea Veri...McKee got very stressed about me using that term;
    "Woowoo"...Lol

    Especially in, Judy Woowoo Wood.

    So I coined, "Spazmata" - it is like Stigmata, except it happens in the cerebral cortex rather than the palm of the hand...{grin}.

    Thanks for all the back up you give me in our email exchanges as well.

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  24. The following URL has an invaluable cache of articles on 9/11 from Global Research.

    They have been on the case from 9/12 forward, with background history as well as cutting edge analysis for the last eleven years:

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-911-reader-the-september-11-2001-terror-attacks/ 

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  25. TINY BIRD MEETS BIG JET PLANE

    [A Fetzer Fable]

    This is a tale told by Fetzer to buttress his mass-ratio assertions to the plane impacts on the WTC towers. As in many of those arguments, he does not argue to mass-ratio, but rather to CRASH DYNAMICS and comparative materials strength. And he seems not to recognize this himself, as I have queried him on this myself extensively.

    Nevertheless the ‘Bird and Plane’ story is another instance of arguing material strengths and crash dynamics. However in this story he defeats his own mass ratio argument he plays to the crash into the towers. This story is actually an allegory to the building hitting a stationary plane; same dynamics: huge mass hitting tiny mass.

    First, ‘Comparative Materials Strengths’:

    What do you suppose the tensile strength of a bird’s skull is?

    We are talking bone, at most a few millimeters thick. The skull of even large birds can be crushed by a strong mans hand. The structural strength of the bones of the rest of the bird is even less than the skull. So in all, the structural strength of the entire bird is very small, birds are very frail in this regard.

    Now we go back to the airplane strikes bird story: How is it possible that a bird of such frail structure, and a mass thousands of times less than the airplane, is capable of penetrating metal that is stronger than industrial steel?

    To ‘Mass-Ratio v Crash Physics’:

    It is possible and has happened hasn’t it? Yes birds can mess up planes, and it has to do with speed, MOMENTUM and KINETICS.

    Just like the impact of the jet into the towers – speed and kinetics and crash physics – not mass ratios; For what would you suppose is the mass ratio of our little bird and a 140 ton airplane? That mass-ratio would be just about 400,000 to 1. And the material strength ratio is literally inconsequential when one is comparing the crash physics of two metal objects to flesh, blood, and bones against metal.

    Note:
    Both the Boeing 757 and 767 have Kevlar wing fairings [edges].

    Both are made of:
    Aluminum Alloy 2014-T6 – yield strength: 400 – ultimate strength: 450.
    Structural Steel - ultimate strength: 400

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  26. This is a response to "Dr" fetzer to a comment directed at me tonight:
    . . . . . . . . . . . . .

    hybridrogue1 says, September 8, 2012 at 9:54 pm:

    James H. Fetzer, Ph.D. – McKnight Professor Emeritus University of Minnesota Duluth says in his most “scholarly language”, on September 8, 2012 at 9:08 pm:

    >”I was asking for the source, you phony shit! You are so hard up for arguments you are doing it in your pants and then displaying your stained underwear here for the world to witness.”
    . . . . . .
    Lol

    Meanwhile, there is the matter of KINETICS which__of course goes UNANSWERED.
    . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

    Now just imagine...this guy Fetzer is supposed to be some sort of scholar...
    Hahahahahahahah.....and he goes hysterical during a debate, when his "specialties" are presumably logic and reason and critical thinking...

    This is really a fascinating read in the commentary on this blog:

    http://truthandshadows.wordpress.com/2012/08/15/contrived-ridicule-of-conspiracy-theories-really-means-stop-questioning-stop-thinking/


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