Thursday, May 31, 2012

Contrary to the status quo

http://youtu.be/S24FxdvfOko

Found this on Forbidden Knowledge TV. Socrates would fit right in here. An original critical thinker. It takes real chutzpa to go against the grain. A toast to breaking away from the herd mentality.

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  1. "The unexamined life is not worth living."~Socrates

    I have come to the same conclusion. I don't think it IS living otherwise.

    Thanks Don, a nice little reminder.

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  2. Great Film Short V.

    I look like Socrates :) Or is it Yoda?

    Remember 12 angry men 11-1. 11 is the fool, the sheeple.
    We doubt ourselves? Everyday I do. Mind trips? Oh yeah.

    Suicides up in Greece?
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505123_162-57443982/spike-in-suicides-a-sign-on-greek-elections/

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/28/us-greece-election-suicide-idUSBRE83R08N20120428

    Then theres Turkey

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v2GW-8qiJQ&feature=related

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  3. I sent this to Veri today earlier in an email, he wrote an appreciative response - so, I thought the rest of COTO might see something in it:

    https://truthandshadows.wordpress.com/2012/05/21/pentagon-fight-used-against-911-truth-movement/

    hybridrogue1 says - May 31, 2012 at 2:02 pm:

    “I am primarily interested in why people think what they think.”~onebornfree

    “The objective of disinformation is not to convince you of one point of view or another, it is to create enough uncertainty so that everything is believable and nothing is knowable.” – James Fetzer

    And as per Fetzer’s proposition above, his cup floweth over. He has shown a complete lack of knowledge of applied physics, and to be nothing other than a master at rhetorical obfuscation.

    And so just what was the essential message from Onebornfree’s last comment? I see the frame as exactly: Creating enough uncertainty so that everything is believable and nothing is knowable.

    Onebornfree has a very curious MO as a profile:

    On the one hand he spreads a lunatic theory generated from Shacks incoherent, and technically incompetent Clues Forum, regarding digital fakery.

    On the other hand he spins these simi-lucid, mind numbing carousels of twisted and misplaced legalisms. This is a schizo profile, one personality formed of utter idiocy {the Shackian side} and the other personality capable of writing convoluted psychological warfare text {the latest commentary, and another a bit above on this thread}.

    The quote I open with from Onebornfree may be the most honest and upfront admissions he has made on this blog, as it is a study on how and why people think as they do that is the primary mission of those who’s mission it is to manipulate thinking.

    So the fact that his main mission is that of erasing all the visual evidence of 9/1, and a secondary mission of insisting that “nothing is knowable” – indicates a purposeful disinfo mission here.

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  4. Does anyone here remember the first World Trade Center?

    http://www.jfkmontreal.com/importance_garrison.htm

    Jewish friend of Israel, Louis Bloomfield, and Clay Shaw of the Centro Mondiale Commerciale (the World Trade Center) 1960s.

    Also see: Permindex.

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  5. I know it better than 911. I was a real skeptic of Clinton's smoothness. The Rhodesian-Arkansas Ridgeback and Barry Davis Soetoro, the Botswana Delta is another slickster from MKCentral. Permindex Canada, aye!

    That's a critical connecting of the dots to further the theory this program was in the works much further back than many could ever imagine.

    World trade-World Terror, they are synonomous.

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  6. How do you explain James Fetzer? I personally see his transformation moving in a logical progression. Disinfo/theoretical considerations have a place in the process.

    In a Black Swan, the information contradicts the random/unpredictable nature of this event. What follows is based upon previously experienced models.

    Since Fetzer was involved in World Trade International JFK it would only seem logical that he would circumvent all the biases of misinfo from experience and consider the known unknowns then move to the unknown squared. P-R-S is then analyzed in reverse. Transition-Effect-Cause

    The next step imo is to then recycle the previous experience as false to determine what is not.

    hindsight would say the attacks were forwarned. CIA intel, Clinton Misfire, 93 event, Waco, OKCity, and

    Beneficiaries-Model-Inception - the usual suspects, the timeline and the origin. Garrison may have used it, may have tried to use it, but the reality is a perfect triad constructs such a convoluted association of benefactors and all these entities benefited from the JFK event and all are guilty of conspiring in thought or discussion of the scenario and subsequent strategies and game theories would obviously be played out in the dark rooms of multiple covens.

    That helps to keep those who were part of these decoy and deflectors in line and connects them as ones of many benefactors. It's a frame of frames, framed by framers, unknown with exception of master architects.

    We benefit from all of it when we find our personal method. I wish I could say seeing is believing but I think we are beyond it now.

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  7. Interesting connection, wonder how many in Canada know of Permindex, I didn't. MK even links Canada further that goes back to December 6 1941 and Camp X in Whitby Ontario Canada when it was started as a spy school that tied Britain and the US in affiliation between British Security Co-ordination and the OSS. Even the Prime Minister of Canada was kept out of the info loop. Well everybody knows what happened the next day but it was in the planning and initiation well before. When you consider that DR. Donald Ewen Cameron operated mind control experiments at McGill University in Montreal for the CIA from the mid 50's which developed into MK-ULTRA that has eventual connections to the Jonestown massacre. It should be of no surprise that Canada was and probably still is used by them to perform their dastardly deals out of the limelight despite the hype of us being a mild mannered people that are enviable peacekeepers. I think this is the proper spelling for crock of shit, AYE?

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  8. I spent the time to read the comments of Rogue and the gallery at TRUTH & SHADOWS. Some interesting comments.

    When I think about the Gellatin Beta B-Thing at WTC and remind myself of the construction happening in the data room wing at Pentagram, it just adds to my E.V.A.N. theory that whatever the facets of thermite, planes, missile drones, perpetrators and idiosyncratic witnesses and other anomalies may exist, the most prolific component still lies in the bluebeam technological experiments in both behavioral cognition and technological determinism towards a total spectrum of human evolution controls.

    Our ancestors did not live long enough to see but amazing things cameras, radio and television did in this process but now the graph and vector indicate a century of advancement in less that a decade. It is such folly to assume innovation follows sci-fiction and not the reverse. Trickledown science is what we work with. But not 'them.'

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  9. "How do you explain James Fetzer?"

    Simple; he's a mole, sheep dipped in useless JFK "exposes" to ingratiate into the researchers side. Then a slow turning towards ludicrous bullshit as each new "event" is enacted.

    To be clear, I do not buy any of this "No PLanes", "Digital Fakery" nor "Dew" - it is all bullshit in my book.

    I understand you think differently. That is cool with me. I debate hard against all comers elsewhere - here I give all their own POV and let it be.

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  10. Somethings will remain science fiction as long as there is a space-time-continuum.

    Somethings will remain fantasy and dreams, all things possible are not probable, all things probable do not manifest.

    Presumption remains presumption until consumption brings indigestion.

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  11. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=31184

    THE HOULA MASSACRE: Opposition Terrorists "Killed Families Loyal to the Government" - Detailed Investigation ~ Marat Musin, Olga Kulygina, Al-Hula, Syria

    The attacks were carried out by NATO’s mercenary butchers, eye witnesses.

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  12. http://youtu.be/gcRodOfu_s8
    Here's someone that fits this post so well. A modern day Socrates. AI Wei Wei

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  13. WHY THE PENTAGON?

    The pentagram has magical associations, and many people who practice Neopagan faiths wear jewelry incorporating the symbol. The pentagram has associations with Freemasonry[6] and is also utilized by other belief systems. A pentacle is a pentagram with a circle around it.

    Heinrich Cornelius Agrippa and others perpetuated the popularity of the pentagram as a magic symbol, keeping the Pythagorean attributions of elements to the five points. By the mid-19th century a further distinction had developed amongst occultists regarding the pentagram's orientation. With a single point upwards it depicted spirit presiding over the four elements of matter, and was essentially "good". However, the influential writer Eliphas Levi called it evil whenever the symbol appeared the other way up.
    The Order of the Eastern Star, an organization associated with Freemasonry, has employed a point-down pentagram as its symbol.

    The Pentagnon was designed by the American architect George Bergstrom (1876–1955), and built by Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, general contractor John McShain, the building was dedicated on January 15, 1943, after ground was broken for construction on * *September 11, 1941*. General Brehon Somervell provided the major motive power behind the project;[1] Colonel Leslie Groves was responsible for overseeing the project for the Army.

    Exactly 90 years after the ground breaking ceremony the Pentagon was broken on September 11, 2001.

    Doncha just love them 'magical' coincidences/associations???

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  14. Somehow Patrick, I don't believe you look like either one .........

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  15. Loved the Socrates vid Veri. Thank you for posting. Yes, Coto follows in his footsteps without a doubt. Also enjoyed watching the one about Al Wei Wei.

    The "ming" vase decorated with the coca cola logo made me laugh. That would be a great gift to send to Max Keiser who despises that company. And those sunflower seeds...amazing!

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  16. Plane at the Pentagon??? Really? I think that if the planes/drones/fuel cans existed then their were no pilots and they were guided just as missiles (heat seeking-laser guided) then that would explain the accuracy.

    Don't the pilots for truth say they couldn't even maneuver the Pentagon hit?

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  17. I never had much doubt but that's pretty damning by GR. It is ludicrous to believe the tales of Gaddafi and Hussein. Any killing they did were al-CIAda and only CIA.

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  18. Great Videos, V. A good example for me of a man finding his energy and power in art. powerful!

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  19. There was a plane at the Pentagon it just didn't hit it. It flew over just as a flash/smoke bomb went off. The plane flew into the smoke screen and over the building as the real concussive explosives set in the new facade and throughout the damage path blew.

    The plane was not the commercial liner, none of them were.

    The reason they didn't chance a plane crash at the Pentagon was the lack of certainty for anything that might go wrong, sense the script called for some top brass and Rumsfeld to be in the building for public relations purposes. Thus totally controlled shaped charges, to take out the accountants, and create the incident.

    They could have hit the building with a real plane, but not at that low a level, according to Pilots. That is why a real plane crash was too tricky and it may not have taken out the desired targets, the accounting offices.

    The FDR is a total fake of course, and the Radar feeds were delayed, not because of the "clock disfunction" but because it was relayed and tampered with at another station:

    "The NEADS clock was NOT running slower on 9/11. Rather its radar data was being collected, altered, and then fed into the system.
    I posted a little analysis I did based on the FDR data and it suggests that my hypothetical was indeed what was done to the data. I’ve demonstrated it to my satisfaction and I’ll leave the rest in your capable hands. My guess is the simulation was done before the data alteration (that is why in the video it flies north of the Citgo station). To be honest, they really did do a sloppy job in the alteration and I would expect better from our civil servants. The guy who did the work should be fired for not doing a sanity check before releasing it." -John Farmer, to CIT and Pilots

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  20. Hey Puddy,

    You spoke to the Gelatin B-Thing on another thread.

    Yea, I think they were setting some of the plastique in the towers.

    Sol-Gel science and technology. The way of making materials in any form including fibers, films, particles and monolithic solids starting with liquids and molecular...

    A Nano-thermite or "super-thermite"[1] is a metastable intermolecular composite (MICs) characterized by a particle size of its main constituents, a metal and a metal oxide, under 1 micrometre. This allows for high and customizable reaction rates. Nano-thermites contain an oxidizer and a reducing agent, which are intimately mixed on the nanometer scale. MICs, including nano-thermitic materials, are a type of reactive materials investigated for military use, as well as for general applications involving propellants, explosives, and pyrotechnics.

    What distinguishes MICs from traditional thermites is that the oxidizer and a reducing agent, normally iron oxide and aluminium, are in the form of extremely fine powders (nanoparticles). This dramatically increases the reactivity relative to micrometre-sized powder thermite. As the mass transport mechanisms that slow down the burning rates of traditional thermites are not so important at these scales, the reactions become kinetically controlled and proceed much more quickly.

    There are many possible thermodynamically stable fuel-oxidizer combinations. Some of them are:

    Aluminium-molybdenum(VI) oxide
    Aluminium-copper(II) oxide
    Aluminium-iron(II,III) oxide
    Antimony-potassium permanganate
    Aluminium-potassium permanganate
    Aluminium-bismuth(III) oxide
    Aluminium-tungsten(VI) oxide hydrate
    Aluminium-fluoropolymer (typically Viton)
    Titanium-boron (burns to titanium diboride)
    In military research, aluminium-molybdenum oxide, aluminium-Teflon and aluminium-copper(II) oxide have received considerable attention.[3] Other compositions tested were based on nanosized RDX and with thermoplastic elastomers. PTFE or other fluoropolymer can be used as a binder for the composition. Its reaction with the aluminium, similar to magnesium/teflon/viton thermite, adds energy to the reaction.[6] Of the listed compositions, that with potassium permanganate has the highest pressurization rate.
    Nanoparticles can be prepared by spray drying from a solution, or in case of insoluble oxides, spray pyrolysis of solutions of suitable precursors. The composite materials can be prepared by sol-gel techniques or by conventional wet-mixing and pressing.

    ____________________However:

    I think the finale was thermobaric...

    Thermobaric explosives rely on oxygen from the surrounding air, whereas most  conventional explosives consist of a fuel-oxidizer premix (for instance, gunpowder contains 25% fuel and 75% oxidizer). Thus, on a weight-for-weight basis they are significantly more energetic than normal condensed explosives. Their reliance on atmospheric oxygen makes them unsuitable for use underwater, at high altitude or in adverse weather. *However, they have significant advantages when deployed inside confined environments such as tunnels, caves, and bunkers.*

    ***And this "significant advantage" would certainly apply to tall sealed skyscrapers as well. Aye?

    Like dispersing the fog through the AC and having ignition points at locations sequenced to go off in a downward cycle...

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  21. That would be ****60 year anniversary _ from ground breaking to 9/11 NOT 90....sorry.

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  22. I think Socrates gambled that since everyone knew him and considered him wise, they would never condemn him as a common criminal and that would be the ultimate proving of his point. I think he underestimated the power of group think. FWIW.

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  23. Plato never forgot the power of group think though...

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  24. boomerangcomesbackJune 3, 2012 at 3:21 PM

    That's a reasonable theory Rogue1 -- thermobaric.

    The HOW is interesting, yet the WHO needs to go down sooner rather than later. They're taking up oxygen that belongs to real humans.

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  25. I can buy the planes/drones as well, just not the answer to the real question. Cas fortuit to the benefactors aside there's some atomic clockwork orange here. NIST can take credit as I believe NASA can as well. That of course includes the Naval Observatory and the EISCAT interferometers at Tromso, Sura Micado and HAARP.

    Never a dull moment anymore. The flight of the phoenix has landed but rises again as predicted.

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  26. It is the realistic theory. There is still some thought to it being the hollographic platform and laser targeting technology. It is also possible for ELF VHF testing or microwave for collapse -pulverization.

    I'll never arrive at the obvious in 911 as it is just too complex, the WMD Tesla technology. It's a B-thing (brain) and mine is gelatin right now. :)

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