Sunday, December 25, 2011

You Sit on a Throne of Lies

When I finally told my son that there was no Santa, he screamed that I had lied to him.  He was quite pissed.  I don't blame him.

The other day, while on my way to work, I was contemplating the whole jolly old St Nick thing.  When you think about it, the myth of Santa Clause could be viewed as indoctrinating us to be observed and judged by an "authoritarian figure" from a very young age.  Were you naughty or nice?  Did you OBEY and follow the rules?  Sound like Big Brother?   God, how I miss the innocence of youth........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tIcnydrwFY&feature=fvsr

Speaking of "sitting on a throne of lies" get this Christmas message from the Pope of the Evil Empire and  King of Bling.  Apparently he thinks the commoners are too caught up in the glitter of Christmas.  Odd words coming from a man of God(??) that lives in a palace of marble floors, gold faucets and people bending to kiss his ring.

Unfortunately,  His Evilness pretends not to see what the average person is facing this Christmas and it ain't glitter and glitz.  Just ask Mr. Robinson...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKt1DyP3MUE

Merry Christmas Coto. God bless us every one.  (We're gonna need it.)   ~jg

108 comments:

  1. Merry Christmas to you and your family JG! And to All COTO!

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  2. I'm just reading this piece by Kirwan. He makes an important point worth considering: Beyond Apathy

    http://www.rense.com/general95/beynd.htm

    HEY! I CAN'T GE ME NO -- SATISFACTION!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_VbImuG71M

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jadvt7CbH1o&feature=fvsr

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  3. I meant to tag this on above -- JG, you were down on the street, what do You think about Kirwan's point?

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  4. Government of/by/for the People? How so? Illusion?

    http://vaticproject.blogspot.com/2010/03/organization-chart-of-shadow-government.html

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  5. I like the myth of how the fat guy with the red suit and the flying reindeer came about better. It has something to do with the propensity for deer in Lapland to have a weakness for these little white speckled red capped mushrooms that grow profusely out of the tundra. As the story goes, the Laplanders developed a taste for reindeer urine (must be something like developing a taste for beer). That got them really flying in a Terrance McKenna kind of way. When you think about it, if the reindeer didn't get poisoned, neither would they. A yucky kind of survival tactic just for a good trip.

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  6. Hey Boom, hope your Christmas with your family is sparkly :) For just today, pretend all this crap isn't going on.

    As for Kirwan, I agree that accepting the beatdowns and pepper spraying by the cops without retaliating in kind, is not a natural human response. I get too angry and would lash out myself if I were confronted by these cretins. In fact I think,very soon, the non violence on the part of the people will end. The anger and frustration is mounting by the public in general, not just those already in the streets. As Gerald Celente says, when the people have nothing to lose, they lose it. With the price of food and goods going through the roof and salaries of those still employed stagnant,(to say nothing of the unemployed) we're going to see most Americans "lose it". Add to that the ever more blatant appearance of the police state and it's obvious, all hell is about to break loose. Or maybe not. Too many are still catching and believing the propaganda being catapulted at them .

    Even as a little kid I hated to see injustice and always fought against it by befriending the kid being picked on for the way they dressed or looked. I was fired from my very first job by going up against my supervisor in defense of another employee who was being unjustly accused of something by her. That supervisor was a former sgt in the military and we worked for former Colonels and Majors.(for the govt). So I always had a dislike for the military and men in uniform be they soldiers or police. Rebels with a cause were always my heroes.

    I don't know the answer of how to stop these bullies. What i do know is that we have to be a people united against them and stop fighting amongst ourselves. If we can accomplish that, then there will truly be force in our numbers. I definitely have seen a change in the people I work with. They actually nod their heads in agreement and sometimes verbally engage in conversation when I bring up our current state of affairs. Before they'd just change the subject. This is definitely progress. I fear it may be too little too late. Or maybe, just maybe the good guys behind the scenes have an excellent plan to save the world.

    It's Christmas. We're supposed to believe in miracles this time of year, right?

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  7. Reindeer urine? ewww. That's one xmas story i'd never heard. Wonder if Hallmark could capitalize on that one somehow .....

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  8. Merry Xmas COTO ! :-)
    and Jersey yeah the reindeer pee item is true,
    the shrooms ARE dangerous until filtered by the deer,
    all those jokes about the yellow ice..now you know why.

    re the fat man in red..
    notice the red suit/the red popery?
    and all the dates the people celebrate are the popes crowds calendar and story?
    if gregorian adjusted things..then the days of all the major events they promote are also their choice not actual facts SUNday to get the sunworshippers in britain of old to agree to join the popery bandwagon.
    if you can't beat em lie and incorporate them
    liked the way they changed the popes speech times to suit him, seems tradition is flexible for this pope, while the rest followed the script regardl;ess.
    hell hes hand in glove with the banksters, didnt hear him supporting Italys own govt for the IMF EU Goldman shill did we?? buying up mid east property like holy shrines etc theyre muttering about it lately, thing is>?
    it was already a done deal
    I doubt we will get to end of 2012 without war breaking out.

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  9. I think Frank Zappa was onto something about not eating the yellow snow. "THEY" don't want us eating it either. Something about psychedelics and the effect it has on us, what with the connection to our higher selves and all that. They don't like pot for the same reason, they'd rather we drank. You know the age old saying? Instant asshole, just add alcohol. Besides it helps with the great cull, maybe only in a small way though. I think in the US it's about 40,000 traffic deaths a year, tally that with the rest of the world. Not sure but with all the health problems associated on top with over indulgence mixed in, I'm sure they're quite happy to keep it in place. With their phoney religion, Frank Zappa got it right there too in titling them the brain police.

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  10. Merry Christmas Jayjee and all of the Cotomotos.

    Glad you came outta hiden girl, we missed you.

    I've nothing clevah to say....yet. I just now am inculcaking me first cuppa java.
    drinking it in liquid form eyeyam or sweetpotootie. Ho ho ho and all that.
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  11. As to the points made in Jersey's opening dialog above - about and costello the Santa surveillance society of "you'd better look out..."

    I don't know if anyone has ever heard the Orson Welles' reading of "Santa Clause is Coming to Town" in his low sinister voice...it is simply chilling to here those same familiar words delivered like that.

    It's funny I didn't hear that until 2004 on Le Show that used to be on NPR - one of the guys from Firesign I bethunkin'. His Christmas show was great that year.

    Hey...maybe that reading is on U-tubulaters - hava lookie.

    Isn't it pracdakulaly unbenfeezable that it's justa week to 2012?? wow
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  12. Can COTO join virtual hands and make a call to our Waldopaper to come back?

    I'm afraid he has left in anger, and should be urged to let it go.

    I am not, nor do I wish to be a change agent in his life. I just want to make as rational an argument as I can.

    His disagreement with me is not a damnation of any sort whatsoever here. I have no power but that which he gives me.

    I don't want his power. Let him keep his own power.
    My judgement is my own. Not that of COTO.
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  13. could not find Welles speaking a Night Before Xmas but thought this link was cool. Welles speaking Edgar Allen Poe poem, with Alan Parsons Project music.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZyNKrYo9I4

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  14. Thanks Will... good to see u too and everyone. What the hell happened with you and Waldo. I missed the plot on that one..

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  15. I agree about early war in 2012 Oz,. They are already committed to endless war but wil 2012 be the war to end all wars? Seems it's shaping up to be that way.

    Stay cozy in chilly Aussie land :)

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  16. I couldn't find the Orson Welles reading Will and I'd really like to hear it. I did find Alice Cooper's musical version. Worth watching the vid to see the pic of the Evil Pope in a santa hat ...lol

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In3sApWlY1s&feature=related

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  17. Waldo's last post on COTO:

    “I also suggest you give Peter’s post another gander and smell the coffee.”[me to Waldo]

    oh what- like I did 40 fucking YEARS ago?? Like what- “boycott Walmart?” “Smell the coffee???”
    Smell my ASS you old fart. Like the BM Gang? Like THAT? I was THERE. Silly-willy-dipdunk loose-lips junior-ass blabbermouth-on-line fuk-nob GIRLIE-MAN.
    Please contact my “law firm:” Fuckoff, Eatshit and Die.”~waldopaper on December 22, 2011 at 1:45 am
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    Jayjee, you would have to read the last half of the posts here to get a sense of what was going down that brought Waldo to the explosive point...
    This is the thread: http://cotocrew.wordpress.com/2011/12/18/419-911/

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  18. I looked for the Orson Welles reading too - couldn't find it...?

    Maybe look for it on Le'Show...but that is probably NPR's copyrighted material. I still can't think of the guys name that did that show - but I think he might have been a Firesign guy. He had that sense of humor and theatrics.
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  19. Nice piece of music too Wxman, I enjoyed that. The Project was really cutting edge at the time.
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  20. check out the origins of santa and xmas tree.
    http://poorrichards-blog.blogspot.com/2011/12/santa-claus-magic-mushroom-have-you.html

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  21. 2011 YEAR of the DUPE: One Year into the Engineered "Arab Spring," One Step Closer to Global Hegemony
    Timeline and History By Tony Cartalucci

    www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=28343

    **************

    http://www.rense.com/general95/heg.htm

    Hegel turned the concept of Socratic reasoning (the Socratic method) upside down by equalizing Thesis and Antithesis. This made all intellectual positions relative by means of the Hegelian Dialectic and through the abolition of absolute truth. "Truth" was now found in Synthesis alone (in the compromise of Thesis and Antithesis). It was no longer a beginning point in the cognitive reasoning process, as it related to the actions contemplated by forces for social change, their motives, or factual claims.
    It was Hegel's view that all things unfold in a continuing evolutionary process, whereby each idea or quality (the thesis) inevitably brings forth its opposite (the antithesis). From that interaction, a third state emerges in which the opposites are integrated, overcome, and fulfilled in a richer and higher synthesis. This synthesis then becomes the basis for another dialectical process of opposition and synthesis. Hegel believed that the creative stress of opposing positions was essential for developing higher states of consciousness.
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    Take these two articles together with a pinch of COTOberry spice, and get some sense of where the boinky boys are leading the mooing masses.
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  22. "December 3-5, 2008: Egyptian activists from the now infamous April 6 movement were in New York City for the inaugural Alliance of Youth Movements (AYM) summit, also known as Movements.org. There, they received training, networking opportunities, and support from AYM's various corporate and US governmental sponsors, including the US State Department itself. The AYM 2008 summit report (page 3 of .pdf) states that the Under Secretary of State for Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs, James Glassman attended, as did Jared C0hen who sits on the policy planning staff of the Office of the Secretary of State. Six other State Department staff members and advisers would also attend the summit along with an immense list of corporate, media, and institutional representatives.

    Shortly afterward, April 6 would travel to Serbia to train under US-funded CANVAS, formally the US-funded NGO "Otpor" who helped overthrow the government of Serbia in 2000. Otpor, the New York Times would report, was a "well-oiled movement backed by several million dollars from the United States." After its success it would change its name to CANVAS and begin training activists to be used in other US-backed regime change operations."
    ~Tony Catalucci

    Now, that there is relevance here to the US Occupy movement is easy to grasp if one can drop the sentimentality, and think with a clear and rational mind on how this is a like synthesis in all it's basic aspects.

    One would find it hard to distinguish between the "consensus" techniques discussed in the other article as to the Communitarianist agenda manifest in the way the Occupiers worked in NY - the main staging area for the phenomena.

    This is not required reading, merely a suggestion. If you fear indigestion, perhaps after Christmas day would be better for you.
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  23. There's a lot more to Reindeer than the masses know.

    To the illuminated that is: http://www.rkdn.org/alternative/santa.asp

    The red nosed ninth was added for illuminati purposes. Going back to Meandash The Santa Claus myth is irrevocably tied into Saami legend as Reindeer regularly get high on Fly Agaric (Amanita Muscaria - they are the archetypal Toadstools and have a red cap with white spots) and are seen to leap around, giving rise to the story of Santa's flying reindeer. Saami shamans have a custom of deliberately feeding the mushrooms to their deer, and then collecting and drinking the urine because most of the toxins are filtered out by the reindeer's digestive system.

    So veritable's comment on beer is even better as a hallucinegenic cocktail.





    St. Prick and Krampus can stuff it as can Walstreetmart and the rest.

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  24. Good to see ya again JG. Merry Christmas to all.

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  25. Yes, the Tony Cartalucci article is excellent reading. Wish I had something more to add. Thanks for being YOU, Will and Merry merry to yall.

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  26. Greetings all, as tradition dictates, I wish you all well. And I do. All the time, as each of us do everyday in this fight.

    Fight ... is there a truce from this word even on this day of peace?

    This Christmas I suppose is special because most of us realize that the curtain is being drawn, and what's going to be exposed is going to change everything.

    And speaking of changes, I found this out a few days ago. On Dec. 21, 2012, coincidentally, is the end of the 100-year old charter for the FED.

    So, who knows? Maybe next year, we'll all still be here celebrating our stupidity? And swapping "I didn't see that coming," stories.

    And I do see some positive changes. And if God holds-up the shield one more year ... but I have to tell you this shield is getting heavy, and it's taken some hits, I'd like to be here to tell you how much your words, spirit and humanity have meant to me. But if I'm not, let me take this time to say ... Thank you.

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  27. Merry Christmas Mary good day sunshine. And thanks for being YOU as well.

    And Happy New Year cometh that year, yes THAT one we have all anticipated...now we shall see with our own eyes...

    A choo-choo train or a woowoo chain? Something novel comes.
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  28. Merry Christmas M,

    Interesting about that Fed charter expiry date. I wonder what they knew and know? And How they knew and know it...[?]

    One thing - Whatever IT is, is sure to be a surprise to all, beyond hoomins imagination. Er, I betcha.
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  29. Aye M! Cheers to you from, and to all of US at COTO! And to Puddy -- a mighty Hurrah & Hug for creating a forum where folks who don't mind the heavy burden of "Thinking 'bout things, and weighing in, and sharing their thoughts, expertise, insights, and inspiration", can get some satisfaction from the simple fact they made a conscious decision to stand for the principles of "real" freedom. To stand for humanity. Y'all have HEART! Without that, we've got nothing worth living or fighting for...

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  30. http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/42586

    "Two of Ron Paul‘s foundations are skirting the edge of, and perhaps crossing, the line between issue advocacy and political campaigning and may be breaking federal tax and campaign finance laws.

    The non-profits, all part of millionaire Paul’s political empire, pays his campaign aides, organizes political volunteers and promotes his often unorthodox ideas, the Associated Press is reporting."

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    Now this is something I heard about the last campaign around - how he used much of the money donated by that big web boost of volunteeria for many other personal reasons as well.

    There is a chance he's as big a crook as all the others, and just plays a convincing gadfly role. This is not a firm opinion on me part, I am just investigating him as I would anyone else in so-called "government"
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  31. I saw this ancient rendition - well it stretches...how well, I dunno.
    I ain't sayin' yup, and I ain't sayin' nope, I'm just sayin' maybee.
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  32. Thaass juss creepy by himiny...

    Has that Mexican el Diablo style from the 30s-40s.

    Seems it is a Hispanic artist that did Denver Airport as well.
    Some o'dem got zat dark shamanism in they heart.
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  33. Remember the Trojan Horse! Also, Americans are always looking for some "Hero" to save them. That's why all the "Cult of Personality" fawning bullshit. If even some small percentage of the population decided, "Hey! We can ALL be leaders. I think it's best I start with Myself!". Then, Wonder of Wonders -- We the People wouldn't need "leaders" to show us the way. It appears to be a cop-out, dereliction of personal duty and responsibility. Absolutely freaking Perfect for this generation's Walmart couchpotatoe lazy fatazz. Well, it doesn't work for squat, and its why we're confronted with a small cadre of psychos controlling the machinery of the country.

    Here's someone's thoughts on the subject:

    http://www.blacklistednews.com/The_American_Fascist_Sandwich%3A_Indefinite_Detention_and_Internment_Camps_/17157/0/0/0/Y/M.html

    Hmmm. That's right! If the the guv declares its citizens its Enemy...then the guv is The Citizen's Enemy!

    Rather straight-forward thinking there. But, most will skate right on by that one. "Oh No!" They're coming after ME?!!!

    Isn't the opposite kinda scary for the lawless perps? "Oh No! ALL of THEM are coming AFTER US!"

    Where's the power in this room? In this country? Everyone's looking around for it -- will Ron Paul save us? Who? Who?!
    Who will save US?!

    Look in the mirror. You're it.

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  34. "Y’all have HEART! Without that, we’ve got nothing worth living or fighting for…"~Boom

    Yes...

    Let your hearts beat in sympathy with the heart of Kristos.
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  35. I had an epimpiny the other day. It finally dawned on Me that the only reason the military and police exist is to keep the oligarchs in power and the banker barons too. So much for "we" the people.
    Their money wont save them in the day of God´s wrath. We just need to keep our own noses clean and wait for the big SHTF to be over. I am happy building My stuff,I just hate it that some are sleeping in a cardboard box. Cheers to ya !

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  36. Sort of a frosty Carlos Casteñeda but without the cactus, or the meskin hotties.

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  37. Speaking of Trojan Horses Boom - check this out. I think there are a certain portion of major thinkbots that have codenames - like Atzioni, one of the head philosophers of the Communitarian school that this clown hails:

    Dr. Trojanowicz, formerly the director of the National Center for Community Policing at the University of Michigan, considered the father of Community Oriented Policing, ponders the dilemma of the current state of affairs in his paper Community Policing and the Challenge of Diversity.

    He states: "The community of interest generated by crime, disorder and fear of crime becomes the goal to allow the community policing officer an enter into the geographic community."

    Let me repeat that. Trojanowicz says: Social chaos is the GOAL and that the crisis of crime and disorder is the door for the police officer (as facilitator/change agent) to enter the community.

    This is the Hegelian Dialectic in its essence: contrived problem - facilitated reaction - predetermined solution.
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  38. Almost WTC 1 and jumpers if one were really tripping the light fandango.

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  39. Yikes, what is that horrid creature?

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  40. Thank YOU M. We have always been on the same page. Just wish we were in the same town so that we could share that bottle of wine you talked about way back when in the oen days where we first "met".
    Merry Christmas.

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  41. I hear ya Boom. I think we all feel that way. However someone needs to lead and organize the charge. Who will that be? Anyone ?

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  42. Okay, close the boarder. You. Go now. Go close the boarder.

    I hear all this about being an individualist, and Lord knows I'm all about that, but there are some things beyond any one person's ability. That's why we have governments. And as long as a government is kept in it's place, it does a fairly good job of doing things like protecting boarders. And until someone can give me an answer as to what can replace a government to do government's "limited" work, I'm sticking with the government as the Constitution lays out.

    And governments need to have people running them. And who that person is, is very important. Right now that person seems to be Ron Paul.

    Is he a plant? I find that hard to believe. The Bilderbergs aren't that clever. They're way too arrogant to go as far as to use this souse. Do you really believe they'd try reverse discrimination as a tactic?

    There is real tangible unrest in the air. Even the dimmest of bulbs know something isn't right. They may not know why, but they can see when the powers-that-be are trying to silence and smear someone. And even though they might not totally understand Ron Paul's platform, they know that the elite's don't like him, and hence he's getting a real ground-up organic populace following.

    Now ask me if they elites will allow Ron Paul to become president? Not a chance in hell. They'll start WWIII first. And even if he should survive and become the Pres. I don't expect too much, but it would be nice to see something besides the same-old-same-old, and I'm sure he'd make some positive moves.

    But who knows? Miracles happen. As I mentioned earlier, we may hopefully be around next year celebrating.

    Now ask me if I really believe that will happen?

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  43. Blessings to all in The Big Easy, M.

    Imagine a hundred years without an audit. Only a gawd could accomplish that.

    Religion

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_vYz4nQUcs

    If the bankers don't win the Psychoscientists will.

    Beware my little Tiny Tim.

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  44. Yea M, I hear ya.

    I was just telling Veri in an email - if there are elections, it there is a United States...some very big ifs at this point...but if so, I would like to see what would actually happen with a Ron Paul presidency.

    But also is the momentum of the system...even if pure hearted as he seems, I can't see it having any noticeable effect on the path of the nation. But then, there are those miracle aspects.

    One of those miracle aspects would be avoiding WWIII beforehand - as that seems to be stacking up at this time.
    All the woowoo trains look to have left the station for their destinations.

    And the big wah wah of the economic crescendo is still stacked like old dry potato chips on the roulette table. All it will take is a strong wind. I hear the rumbling of hot gas in the potbellies of the elitenshtieners and there is sure to be an explosive flatulence at any moment. That may be nookleyer toots.

    I see a timetable clearly...but what is so great about that, is the future is always a surprise - the coincidence of my being right in this projection is so fantastic that I am bound to be wrong...eh?

    Let's just wish upon a star. A billion Jiminies can't be wrong.
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  45. Saint Nickies sidekick Krampus. Naughty or nice, he'll take either.





    Here's my fav. Pervert Santa outside while Krampus role plays Strauss Kahn


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  46. The good news with this is (if there is any) not all the soldiers and cops are on-board with this. I give it at least 50/50 about now. The longer we can delay the more chance we have of gaining. People are waking-up thanks to the over-reach of these cretins.

    I feel they'll most likely prop-up this charade during an election year, pump a bunch more funny-money into the system, and plan an accident for RP, or have a false-flag event to justify an attack on Iran, just before the election, and smear RP as an appeaser. Which I believe is the more plausible scenario. Makes Obama look like a hero. And any one that opposes what's going on (likely RP voters) have to be rounded-up because of "national security reasons."

    That's where I'm putting my money. Unless ... unless we see that unknown-unknown pop-up somewhere. Or that 50% that is woken-up get the upper-hand.

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  47. Yes, my little Spirit-Girl.

    Afraid I had a little too much of that wine last night, and it reminded me of why I shouldn't drink anymore. Not going to be doing that again for some time. You might be the only one that could make me break that pledge.

    I'll be stepping-up the battle here after the 1st. Have another radio interview with the same people as before on the 12th. I plan on be loaded for bear this time and verbally bitch-slap that condescending little pencil-neck host into the river. Of course I'll do it as nicely as my temper will allow me, which will last maybe 20-seconds.

    The TV interview went okay. I wasn't as sharp as I would of liked. But the guy that did the interview was a real putz. He was at the screening I did of Explosive Evidence, and still wouldn't accept the findings. When I asked why not, he said he couldn't "believe" our government would do such a thing. Even though his show professes to be fashioned off of investigations on subjects using science. After a few email exchanges, on me asking to clarify this discrepancy, he said he "refuses to carry on an argument with me."

    Can't wait until I see this pompous-ass in person again.

    Instead of going into hiding I'm charging the front lines wearing a bulls-eye on my chest. It's not because I'm brave. It's because there's nothing left for me to do. One of these days my mouth is going to write a check I can't cash.

    I think I told you I tried to arrest Sen. Mary Landrieu? They told me she wasn't in, so I said I'd be back with a crowd. A couple of people said they'd go with me, but saying and doing tend to be somewhat apart.

    A couple of people have donated a mic set-up so I'm planning to hit the streets in front of her office and her criminal brother's office, the mayor. One thing for sure, I'm not planning on living a boring life this coming year, and I doubt this life is going to make it boring for any of us.

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  48. Coto nose, it's just a
    New Skin for the Old Ceremony

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZDsXvT66IM

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  49. You missed my point above M, or I wasn't clear enough. Yeah, there needs to be government, and organization, laws, etc. But the Hero/Saviour thing bothers me, 'cause a horizontalization is so easy and takes the wind right out of sails. A monstrous problem is the culture of corruption in politics, corporations, banking and money centers. Say Paul gets in, stays alive, and the CONgress remains essentially as it is now? There's lots to say on various elements and problems confronting government and administration. Too much for now.

    I have some things to say about populations allowing illegitimate "leaders" to make illegitimate laws, and manipulate the entire population with "illusions". Look at this NDAA legislation, or the Patriot Act? The only thing that makes the unconstitutional laws "in force" is the displayed power to enforce them. Fear. But, fear can be defeated. Really, I think, the question will come down to, "Will Americans stand up for themselves against tyranny?". How they answer this question will determine everyone's future.

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  50. Well M,

    I think we all know that the system is just held together with Mickeys used bubble gum. It won't take much for it to really start to crumble. The only thing is the Appearance projector will hide this for a good time - and people will only believe it when their own butts land on the sidewalk...

    I think just two or three months into the new year we will see this, and of course the delay in the zombie consciousness will follow by months until the slap back echo blows their eardrums out of their heads with a reaction of utter hysteria.

    That will be big spooky - the hysteria of the zombies facing reality for the first time in their lives. The ground dropping out from under their feet will be too hard for them to miss. It's bound to be a splatter film in a neighborhood near us all.

    I see the same scenarios in the politik windows that you do. The martyrdom of St. Paul could be a very real possibloody. Which is a sad story I wouldn't like to be reading about some day...
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  51. Suggested Reading...

    "NDAA...Land of the free no longer, Land of the Brave only if you are serious enough to risk it all..."
    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=225459

    "Eyewitness account of the forerunner of the NDAA bill as observed and commented on by Patrick Henry"
    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=225461

    Is not the Enemy of the People, Any People --

    HE who says, "I can kill you (and your family) anytime I want, however I want, wherever I want -- and you will do as I say or else?".

    I asked a neighbor here in the south once, about him defending himself, and his family. He said, "When they start hunting me, that's when I start hunting them". The American People don't go looking for trouble, a fight, or a war. They work hard, and want to be left alone to live, love, and raise their families. They haven't realized for many reasons that they've been "hunted" and abused for a long time now. NDAA, when enforced on an unfortunate few, will make clear to the many, that they now are "the hunted". Any power that crosses that line, will have hell to pay.

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  52. "I just want to make as rational an argument as I can." -\\][//

    Always ready to see your point as soon as you have one.

    It is the Season when we all have spirits who visit us... and they generally point to peace and understanding... and sometimes to terrible things that can/will be. Will we end our nightmare like Scrooge repeating, "...I'm not the man I was?"

    We could begin by belaying the thinly-veiled spooge about violent revolution. This one is different... as soon as violence begins, the revolution ends. Instead, we may begin thinking about occupying our own "corporations" http://www.truthout.com/occupy-corporation/1324391711 Dark talk draws heat. Who needs it?

    Christmas morning my baby girl was wearing makeup... and my baby boy a mustache... but they were still the little people whose eyes lit up my life when they saw their first Christmas tree. You bet I believe in Santa Claus. Little man- red suit- flying sleigh... naaahhhh... the Santa I know is real as little kids' dreams- one of the most powerful things in the world.

    I think I told them, "...we were just trying to show you something we really don't understand ourselves..." or something like that. Every day we stay peaceful and compliant (not "obedient") we win the hearts of more of the mercenaries trapped in their own oppressive "corporations." The baggers and libertines with their puffed-chests and "second amendment options" are not helping anything...yet.

    Tend to lose temper with too much beer and too little cheer. The kids morphed those polly-pockets and toy drums into the most wonderful gift a man can have- a young woman and man who still love their daddy... and have no need to tell his grumpy old ass... because he still sees those tree-lights in their eyes...

    ...so many years ago. Peace. Out.

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  53. Especially Jayjee and Puddy should see interest in this, as per relevance to the Denver Airport:

    http://eventhorizonchronicle.blogspot.com/2011/12/vorticular-madness-of-dark-magicians.html

    1987, Lloyd A. Duscha, the then-Deputy Director of Engineering and Construction for the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, gave a talk at an engineering conference entitled “Underground Facilities for Defense – Experience and Lessons.” In the first part of his talk he stated that:

    “After World War II, political and economic factors changed the underground construction picture and caused a renewed interest to 'think underground.' As a result of this interest, the Corps of Engineers became involved in the design and construction of some very complex and interesting military projects.”

    Of course, a big part of the “renewed interest to 'think underground'” was due to the discovery in 1945 of the elaborate underground facilities the NAZIs had constructed during WW II. No doubt, one of the “political ... factors (that) changed the underground construction picture” was also Project Paperclip, though it went unmentioned by name by Lloyd Duscha in 1987.
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  54. MERRY CHRISTMAS Waldo


    You can hold the cheese:

    "Always ready to see your point as soon as you have one."

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  55. Ron Paul doesn't have to be a plant. He can be a tool in the garden of good and evil. If he were to become CIC, then they could guarantee a huge conflict North SOuth Korea, Iran, Iraq, India-Pak
    etc.

    That would create a huge call for US intervention. Then attack at home and say we aren't safe like Cheney Patriot Act. And the minute Paul touched the current financial heirarchy this would happen.

    "What nature does blindly, slowly and ruthlessly, man may do providently, quickly, and kindly. As it lies within his power, so it becomes his duty to work in that direction." ~ Francis Galton

    Therefore you decide on either a gradual Bilderberg elect transition in a slow swan song or we can go with Dr. P and a quick and intense ending. I'm sure the whiteboys have reviewed this very unlikely contingency.

    It's time for predictions and they are always easier in election years. The first I spill is (at least) four more years of "barely a pulse Barry"

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  56. Boom,

    "IF" Paul gets in, it would send a message to the cowards in Congress that the power of the Bilderbergs is all it's made out to be, and it is they that will feel the fear. Hell, even if he gets the nomination, it will do that.

    As mentioned there is promise in that I do see people at least willing to listen now. It's a battle of ones and percentages.

    And as far as a "cult," I can't see Paul at his age becoming a rock-star.

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  57. Agree, this system of government has always been fragile. And I do not see most people waking-up until it's probably too late. But again, we don't need most people. We need enough of them that are willing to risk it all.

    And there's the one's in the system that won't go along with this and are working behind the scenes to throw wrenches in the machine when it cranks-up it's tyrannical engine.

    I will continue to have hope, as slime as it is. Cautious optimism is what you might call it. Extremely cautious.

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  58. follow my link in, and w press negates me?
    why is us re stockpiling smallpox vax?
    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/12/24/experimental-smallpox-drug-test.aspx?e_cid=20111224_DNL_art_3

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  59. That was heart-warming Waldo, but...

    Read this: "America Held Hostage!" By Jim Kirwan
    12-25-11

    http://www.rense.com/general95/ameld.htm

    You fail to understand the situation or the remedy. "Thinly veiled spooge about violent revolution" ~ Waldopaper. What? There has been NO revolution, except people milling around saying "Shame!" and getting beat up, worse, and arrested for That oh-so-naughty (sic) form of civil disobedience.

    The Revolution has been going on in an inverted manner with the "Change" being imposed upon America, and the brown folks in coveted far-off lands. Nobody wants or advocates violent revolution in the sense of civil war or other. Civil redress of grievances has been attempted at many levels, with a shocking and resounding "SHUT-UP!, You Get No Lawyer!".

    Self-Defense is Not a Revolution. It is the Only Solution left to a besieged population. In fact, it is not a solution, but a duty to the family you so lovingly described. Sorry for the wake-up call. Americans will seek every possible antidote to fascism. But fascism of the sort that NDAA advertises leaves no options but one as far as I can see. Welcome to the responsibility of keeping your Republic -- if you can?...

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  60. You know Boom, it turns into a "Who's On First" dialog to try to reason with Waldonky - he was branded by academia and it is indelible.
    Ne'er facts nor crackerjax will alter his cap't crunch.

    Flatulence gift-wrapped in delightful hipster lexoludial shimmers is the only profit I see - like a mascot in harlequin sequences and woowoo shakeroo trimblecakes from the word ovens of mattel toys.

    Enjoy others for what they are, not what you think they should be.

    One will never see the point while counting the angels dancing on the head of the pin.
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  61. That is a question that is most troubling Oz...any answer seems to indicate spooky business donit.

    Be like the Pentagon ordering 20 million slingshots and tones of ball shot, broadswords and crossbows. I'd guess at that point they know something we don't about the crash of modern technoland.
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  62. "Imagine a democratic alternative to police evictions of Occupy encampments across America's cities and towns. What if... bla bla bla bla..."~Richard D. Wolff, Truthout

    It's too late to fall in love with Sharon Tate. Imagine if Charley wankhausen mansions didn't have a swastika tattooed on his shriveled amygdala.
    What if the sugarplum fairies are real...etc.

    FACTS are - It is what it is. The United States of Amerika is a fucking hard core police state. Occupy is NOT 99 percent of the population, but more on the order of one half of one percent - if that. The police DID kick their ass and drive them from most encampments, and Not diddly squat has been accomplished but the passage of NDAA 2012, the rape and plunder of Lybia and the new 'regime change' wankaroo cowboy bullshit coming down on Syria.

    So - you can deal with the facts as they are on the ground, or all this lollipop wisharoo woowoo.

    Take it from their Maestro...
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  63. Waldo, I, like Hybridrogue1, and tens of millions of people 'round the globe hope for the war against absolute evil in high places, principalities, and other gilded overthrowns, to be accomplished by the "Art of War"...without firing a shot. With superior brainpower and strategy, even guile. As you've notice, we're a bit short on brainpower and strategy, 'cause people refuse to confront that which is approaching them at breack-neck speed with malice aforethought! So, maybe having the numbers will do the trick? I'm not for cannon-fodder however. Seems so archaic. Everyone needs to stop 'dreamin' and start 'seeing'. Sleepwalking off the cliff or into the enemies snares end the same way. So do many other forms of ignorant suicide.

    This is getting tedious talking this way about these things. Many things are self-evident. If folks don't see em, a person's gotta keep moving on to where the soils a bit sweeter...

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  64. Today's Headlines Include:

    "Reports Of IsraHell Selling 69 Of US Most Advanced, Secret Super Patriot Missiles To China, The Sworn Enemy Of The United States - See News Headlines Below!"~Rense

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/12/23/breaking-patriot-missiles-seized-sold-to-china-by-israel/

    China is testing a 5th generation fighter, 20 years earlier than estimated, the JA 20. It is based on systems from the Raptor and is considered a far superior plane to the F 35.

    "China will not hesitate to protect Iran even with a 3rd world war."
    ______________

    And we got people all over the "news" chit chatting about "elections next year", what the Occupy Movement might be able to accomplish in some "long run"...

    WTF???
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  65. These units, the most advanced Patriot system had only been supplied to one nation, Israel. The 69 Patriot ICBM interceptors are believed to be a highly secret consignment demanded by Israel as protection from any retaliatory strike by Iran were war to break out in the region.

    Instead of deploying them, the missiles were apparently sold to China labeled as “fireworks” according to Interior Minister Paivi Rasanen.

    Though the missiles themselves were worth only $4 billion, the technology transfer itself would be worth over $125 billion, and represent a significant loss of defense capability for the United States.

    Sources termed it, “An absolute disaster, even if they only received the radar systems alone, much less the missiles.

    That this would go unreported though the story was broken in Europe 48 hours ago is astounding.

    Nobody in Washington has this although even the BBC report contains more than enough information to bring Washington to a halt.
    ~Veterans Today
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  66. Hillary's probably involved and getting her cut. That this is getting paltry coverage is the M.O. in the U.S. ain't it?... But then, treason is in season right?! Seems a very few even know about the NDAA, and if they do, most don't seem to care. HO, HO, Ho, hum. The Numbers accorded massive swindles, unbelievable burgles, military "interventions", banker bailouts, and colossal crimes have become so ubiquitous as to be "just numbers". Fictions -- but they're not! So we sit and watch and wait for it to all fall down with a dang and a crash. Tis the season.

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  67. I quizzed someone that's an acquaintance that I meet when I take my dog for a walk that was boarding a plane to head for climes warmer. I asked him if he wasn't concerned by the draconian measures of TSA and being nuked naked in their search routine. He stated that it didn't bother him and he felt much safer that way. His reaction to the fact that the shoe bomber and underwear bomber were plants to bring down the staged problem, reaction , solution scenario was just them doing a good job testing the system. He couldn't get it that it was a massive invasion of his privacy and civic rights. They're just unaware of the fact that things are rotten in Rome and they won't tolerate anything that might cast a bad light on how things really are, it's that ostrich syndrome thing. I don't waste time there.
    On a positive note though, a friend who's a high school teacher teaching at an alternate remedial high school for older youth borrowed my "Thrive" DVD and showed it to his class. He was quite surprised by the reaction he got. He learned that most of them were already tuned into a lot of it. He had other teachers on his faculty ask to borrow it when they caught wind of it.
    I've had encounters with some youth that were tuned right in, I asked them how they found out, My answer was that the message was in their music that they had been listening to since they were very young and recognize that the Madonna, Christina Agulera, Britanny Speers and other stuff from that source is psycho manipulative crap. My hope is with the youth, they have to inherit this mess, my read is they're catching on large.

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  68. "Zbig­niew Brzezinski, co-founder of the Tri­lat­eral Com­mis­sion with David Rock­e­feller in 1973, summed up the “net­work” in his 1970 Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Tech­netronic Era:

    “The nation-­state as a fun­da­mental unit of man’s orga­nized life has ceased to be the prin­cipal cre­ative force: Inter­na­tional banks and multi­na­tional cor­po­ra­tions are acting and plan­ning in terms that are far in advance of the polit­ical con­cepts of the nation-state.”

    Until this hege­mony is somehow dis­solved, the game of national polit­ical elec­tions (In the U.S. or Europe) is largely an exer­cise in futility. Elec­tors are simply deceived when they fail to rec­og­nize and address the real power behind the political/economic system."~Wood
    ******

    I would go further, not only the "game of national political elections" - but ANY activity that does not take into account this proven global situation.
    "Petitioning" this so-called "government" by any manner is just as futile as participating in elections. The Target is wrong. This is part of the critique of this Occupy game. They do not - as some huge portion of the population does not - have a grasp upon WHO the perpetrators of their discontent are.

    It is as silly as arguing with a cashier at check out over the store policy. The racketeers in DC have about as much to do with policy as that cashier - they are following diktat from far above their paygrade.
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  69. If you want to know why they killed Michael Jackson, just check out this little talk he gave.

    Now I was never a big fan of Jackson, but this couldn't be any clearer.

    Zap...yup, no doubt all the mainline hoochy was again a cover for the real deal.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPNQhjg56ik&feature=related%20

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  70. willyboom...still waiting for your POINT. What is it? What? Bam-bam or sock-puppet x or y is a "traitor?" "Traitor" to WHAT? (see definition)

    Kirwan is just a dumb Rush Limbaugh. Reading his stuff is like "dur-dur-dur-durdle-dur. " So... yer gonna git yer popguns and rise up against... what... the "police state?" And you think this just happened since black-sock-puppet-with-funny-name got "elected?" Are you guys old enough to drive?

    And in case you haven't figured it out yet... toadying up to "Israel" (Fort Oil-patchy) wins googobs of durdle-durr points with pious bible-smackers who think everybody else is a buncha fag baby-killers.

    So you got this minuteman marvel comic-book in yer head. fine. so... why aint ya DOIN IT? I been hearing this same chest-thumping "patriot" bullshit for over 30 years... mostly when the "democrats" "win" an "election." So? Where's yer bang-bang-shootem-up, eh? Lots of posturing and chicken-choking. Nothing more.

    Know why? Because as long as there's a paycheck on Friday and PBR in the fridge, it's just a buncha blowing hot beer-breath past sweaty sox at the teevee, ok? LaRouche and all them other jagoffs are just spankin they monkey.

    MY point (AGAIN): the future is green. easy way or hard way. we can keep corn-holing our blowup-dolls and saying we made it with a supermodel... or we can localize and form communities and start raising local food sources.

    Turn our backs on the sock puppets and their handy-pies. Ignore them. Get a sense of the bio-guild right under our feet. Water. Food. Energy. Information... energy- environment- economy- peace. That's it, Jack. Everything else is smack.

    But if you wanna act out yer marvel comix minuteman fantasy... why aint you poppin caps instead of speet on yer screens? Eye aint hearin nothin but chin-music... for decades. Like "Obama" and the t-word IN CAPS. blah blah. durdle-dur-dur-dur.

    The #kids are just warming up. They're in it for the long-haul. If the pud-plabbers don't pop to the message (and they probably won't), the #kids will be on to something else. Hope I'm around to see what that will be... and lend 'em a hand if I can.

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  71. T'is said that:


    “Those whom the god's would destroy they first drive mad”.

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  72. I'd say, we're all in this together. It's incredible that all you have to do is talk with the kids straight up person to person and the age barrier ceases to exist. As you and I are way tired of this authoritarian brain shmozzle bullshit. They are even more so from a system that doesn't teach but manipulates for their own purposes as it did in our time but even more so now. Until we evaporate the age barrier, the kids will continue to lump us together as being on the side of "THEY". As each generation rises, they read to me as being just that tiny bit more evolved than us. It's in the talking and jointly coming to a mutual consensus and sharing insights that's the real power of learning. The brightest are left behind by a system steeped in mediocrity that caters to the mediocre. They rise in a yes sir no sir three bags full sir system that can't stand to be questioned. I'm pissed, they're really pissed, no wonder the system's in a headlong rush to complete their agenda. Trouble for them is on the horizon.

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  73. "Turn our backs on the sock puppets and their handy-pies. Ignore them."

    Great advice Waldorumpus, a bullet in the back is easier to take than watching the trigger finger - now ain't it.

    Next time the lights come on behind you when your drivin' just take your own advice doctor wizz, ignore it. And even if it doesn't come your way in the short term just try to pass it by us that you wouldn't pull to the side of the road and have your ID and insurance card ready.

    I have not advocated physical aggression towards the system, I have noted that those who do have a point, when one considers 'self-defense' as an unalienable human right.

    "MY point (AGAIN): the future is green. easy way or hard way."~Woo

    You KNOW the FUTURE aye hotshot? It may never be 'green' again as you are familiar with the term if it turns to nuclear ash. Or do you dismiss that possibility as marvel comics pissslip too?

    "So… yer gonna git yer popguns and rise up against… what… the “police state?” And you think this just happened since black-sock-puppet-with-funny-name got “elected?"~Woo

    Where do you come up with this shit Waldrumb? Who the fuck you talking to? What the fuck?

    Are you dyslectic?

    How do you draw any of this out of anything either Boom or I have said - or even Kirwan for that matter? I call your attention to systems analysis and now you lay this bone head rap on me about thinking the police state is something new? That Obama has anything more than a front man salesman's job in this game?

    Again, who the fuck you think you are chewing out here Waldoboob? Because you aren't addressing anything I actually have said, but have gone off like a splatterthunkin ditzbot - jousting at mirages and shadows.

    What do you do, just put it on automatic speed yap and let it fly without thinking about anything but how clever your hippity hoppity word soup tastes?

    I'm not going to trudge through the rest of your slaphappy lingotwine and take the "points" one by one, because frankly it has become a bore.

    Maybe Boom will come in with the two by four that has your head's name on it.
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  74. Veri,

    This system hasn't much time left on the timer, that much is clear.

    It's the death spasms of this beast, which is global in reach, that are going to be the thing to dodge. And as I have labored to point out here it may indeed take defensive action on our parts to keep our heads intact.

    I'm not going to repeat here one more time that violence is not simply dismissed as aggressive. There is the defensive aspect of it that is valid, now matter how squeamish some of our "civilized" to the point of somnambulism would have it.

    There damn sure is trouble on the horizon, and although the elites can't win in the end, they sure have the capacity to take the whole temple down with them. Samson's Option, as they call it.

    Hey, just 5 more days to the most infamous year to appear like a cosmic jack'o'lantern.
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  75. Oh my...look at the time? Don't feel like arguing much. Waldo, you are jumpin to some off-the-wall conclusions with your spitballs. Try and keep em over the plate for strikes, instead of all balls. If you haven't heard, one of the made-up terrist qualifications is having more than 7 days of food. So green thumbin is frowned upon. That should piss you off, 'cause your concept is slated to be outlawed. That's one of my points. Pretty much if you breathe anyone can fit the terrist qualifiers. Whatever, huh?!

    Where'd you get the idea I, Rogue1, or Kirwan are advocating firefight confrontations as a means to rightin the wrongs? Self defense is anybody breathin's right as you know. All kinds of flighty things cross my synapses, but that doesn't mean they're actionable or wise. Wise has got to be high on the list of brainwork for everybody. I do think folks should grow food source locally and become more self-reliant. That used to be the American way. When bigbadbrother comes and says you can't do that, or you must use GMO shit or whatever, or flu shots are mandatory, whatever the current insane control crap being shoved out the MSM's colon -- well, we've got a compliance issue there.

    It would be helpful if you got more current and realistic with your solutions, whilst quit running off in other directions with concepts, et.al. This is an "idea" farm here. We raise em up hopefully to be healthy and strong. Puny, mutated, ugly ideas will get culled. And so they should. Since you're all green, hold out some stuff we can chomp on that is satisfying instead of mystifying.

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  76. Anybody...

    Have you ever heard me say I am going gunning for the grinch? Where does Waldorude get this shit?
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  77. OK slippery wet willie... what IS it you are actually trying to SAY? you counter-pinch... but an actual "position?" Haven't seen one yet. You got one? Let's hear it.

    "You KNOW the FUTURE aye hotshot?" --ww

    Well... yes. Don't take no screaming genius... just anybody with more inside their skulls than a pinch of shit. Green sprouts poking up thousands of years later after the nuclear spooge shot... or great regenerative acropolae. Nature really don't give a fuck.

    Anybody who thinks they kin fool Mother Nature and bury they heds in the Realpolitik sphincter be a flat-out stoopid fuck.

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  78. "Since you’re all green, hold out some stuff we can chomp on that is satisfying instead of mystifying." --boom

    excellent suggestion boom... and i will try. here's the first: http://permatopia.com/ ...and only the beginning.

    you have much more going than krak-brain Kirwan. That's the lamest shit I've read in decades.

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  79. yep. zackly. thanks, veratable1 for getting the big picture.

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  80. Go head and stick me, wildobutt... soon as ye have a POINT.

    otherwise... keep flappin the flabber wit them girlie magazines...

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  81. Waldopaper,

    Have you ever entertained the thought that perhaps the damage done to mother nature has been:

    1. Done on purpose.
    2. Has been greatly exaggerated.
    3. Driven by an agenda that has nothing to do with taking care of the world and everything to do with unifying humanity against itself, in order to make it easier to depopulate the planet.

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  82. "BTW, I don’t give Obama any credit for all this. He’s just a smooth liar and empty symbol who rubber stamps the agenda of the vicious Controllers."
    ~Zen Gardener

    This is from a recent post by Gardener, and it is exactly what I have been saying about the post of the presidency since I have been in discussions on the web - say some fifteen years or so.

    How often must we start from scratch? Especially with people who have traveled along on COTO for so long? And Waldo has been in the mix since before C1, all the way back to OEN [pardon my french]. I have to admit, I just don't get where he is coming from, or where he gets what he gets out of what I have said, or Boom...and Kirwan, he judges him like he's grading a term paper - or something of "literary value," rather than grasping the essence of of Kirwan's message. Comparing him to Rush Limbaugh???

    What about reading comprehension skills Waldo? I can't help but be curious.

    I have explained my views on self-defense here - as one of our unalienable rights. And I stand by that view. But translating that into a threat of aggressive violence is using the same kind of wanked out logic as the nut ball police-statists. So how is it we find Waldoromper using such logic as well?

    So there are some clearly stated "points' - put as questions to you Waldo.
    What brown hole are you pulling this crap out of?
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  83. A: absolutely. The fats have seen the die-off coming for decades.

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  84. So... if somebody's trying to knock yer dick in the dirt... you have a "right" to try and stop them? Is that it" ... waitaminute... rephrase that... that's IT??? wow. that's fucking brilliant.

    glossing over the idea that to some of us- "right" is really a dill-hole question... what next? when ya eat, you have a "right" to poop?

    pity my simplicity. suffer me to come to thee. always thought that stuff was just plain and simple "physics."

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  85. ...and what if the fats actually engineered events to make us believe things are much worse than they are?

    What if various experts have an agenda or even worse have been duped themselves (zealots)?


    What if the psychopathic elites (and their sphincter lickers) are actively in the process of depopulating the planet (sustainability being one of the main tools used) because they know people with empathy are catching on to their game and their days are numbered?

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  86. let's. try. to. be. simple. here. willdonut.

    You seem to be above all that "ad-hominem" bullcrap. good. eye simply try to draw aside your rhetorical bullcrap to ask" what is your fucking POINT???"

    what- that "Obama" is a TRAITOR. yawn. don't think that was it. That one must "resist" the police state? snurk. really. duh. And then what?

    what- "free market" utopia?? oh-hum.

    I am saying: water, food, energy, information. We don't have TIME for anything else right now. Is that clear enough? Do you not understand what "water" is?

    Or is it more important to "win" an "argument?"

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  87. Waldo, I agree with a lot of what you say but why can't you see the big picture? The world is run by psychopathic "lizard people". I'm not even convinced they are human. You don't need this guy to explain it to you, do you? It's become more than obvious that they are trying to destroy all life as we know it. Plant a garden? Really? You think that's gonna do it when radiation from Fuku and hundreds of leaking nuke plants are covering the sky, land and water in radiation? To say nothing of them on the ready to stomp your little garden into the ground with their jack boots. Have you read the details of agenda 21 yet? Does the NDAA bother you?

    I just stumbled across this on youtube (as u do) while watching that video Will posted on Michael Jackson.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=mwlry5ZjZC4

    Sure the guy could be a nut but what he's saying is now our reality isnt it? Odd, I went to his website just now and saw he even has an article about evil Santa.. the topic of my post ! Weird how things just come together like that sometimes. Is he a nut? What's nuttier than what's happening in the real world right this minute? Waldo, you deny it but you're still caught up in the political web of left vs right. They are one evil entity out to do you and all of us harm. Yea, to me the republicans always looked colder and meaner and for the monied class than the dems but in the end it was all just play acting..good cop vs bad cop election to election.

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  88. Thanks for that JG. I seen that video some time ago but maybe found it to be a little too incredulous. In light of the tread being explored here and what I've learned since, it all fits into place. We maybe too late to take it back but my hope is, that this isn't what nature intended for us. The whole thing reads to be directed by the paranoid delusional that are the end result of too much white powder. When one learns that the blitzkreig of WW2 ran on a brilliant invention by no doubt AG Farben of methamphetamine. That's why the campaigns through Poland, Holland, Belgium and France ran in three day spells. Doing that stuff for the first time for a young man that's never used it, they go for the full three days not needing rest and can't sleep anyhow but eventually flame out and to carry on trying to catch the same buzz, the end result is a quick onset of psychosis. Now cocaine is a similar drug to speed that ends up having the same result eventually. To me that explains somewhat the insane agenda these people have set themselves and us on.

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  89. Intersting the mention of old europes issues, just heard Tomothy snyders on radio a week back re the Rusian/German killing fields that were not in germany, but the polish ukraine etc areas..called the BloodLands, managed to get it via library just started it. it appears there were pre planned starvation events by Both powers well before the wars started..
    makes sense in a warped way they wanted the land to be low pop to be able to invade easier and the few tougher survivors were slave labour.
    with the willie waldo argument above..
    waldos ideas are how we did think folks could ignore the clusterfuck militarys ideas and get by.
    it isnt going to work so well, as all they have to do is a fly by drone to heat seek any animals we shelter and us for that, ditto crops, theyd have to go as they need open sun, so we would be back to root veg spuds and rabbits. beans etc.
    all the rules have been slowly but carefully changed to make home grown illegal. control over water, buyouts of smaller local power suppliers and fuel etc, its a long range and scrupulously planned act.
    its global bilderberg club of rome now iclei who cdc, any excuse to gain power.
    rural land taken for wildlands, which the people of the land who pay for maintaining are then banned from use of.. happening here in aus also.
    Pay to enter a park you pay taxes on already?
    rego and a gaurd gate to get into some. all for our safety of course. ha! in fire season maybe. not year round, especially as GPS ensures we cant hide anyway.
    the idea of bush guerilla style garden plots sure wont work when rabbits roos and the bugs get a whiff of succulent greens..
    all well and good to say buy in dry etc, now you need to be going afield to do so, and having to maybe pay more to buy average sizes not bulk to avoid notice, as seen by the "request" to dob in anyone with the brains to store emergency supplies..
    banks are in deepest doo doo ever and whatever deals they do its going to fall down big real soon.
    I see the patriots being sold, Irans running 10 days war games in the straits, Russias got 3 warships thereabouts, usa has 3 and 2 coming over..
    anyone thinking it isnt going to go down bad soon is delusional.
    buy seeds, store water and drygoods dont forget basics like pens pencils paper recharge batteries windup torches pins needles cottons and pills whatever. at least you folks can arm yourselves, aussies gave up that protection, and we will pay dearly for it too..
    the rabid ecotards ARE working with the PTB wether theyre aware- or just idiots. banning coal and fuel will retard development and that may not be all a bad idea, but it also makes the poor a real target for hunger and being unable to move for work or better climate in their poverty, being hungrywhen the weathers ok beats the energy you use shivering with no heat light or food..
    you can't ignore the bastards, you have to watch them closely and work out alternate means to stiff their plans., ie foil blankets to screw up heat detectors, the foil hat line isnt so silly anymore:-) just make it into a foil coat as well. pushbikes are easy to hide get spare tyres and tubes now. no fuel no noise and beats walking. don't neglect clothing and good shoes, Chinas looking poorly and theyre the source of far too much of essentials,.
    and
    theres a lways the risk of solar flares emf OR a man made event, so make sure you have NONpowered tools and hand appliances for home.
    small bottles of kerosene not in one spot storage, for lanterns etc, the cheap citronella oil can be mixed or used alternatively, grab some if shit dont hit its still useful. dont forget a good supply of wicks. and candles.
    get a litre or more of 10% iodine 10 kilos of Bi Carb, and magnesium chloride( NOT sulphate) if you can grab a small solar charger for phones and small lights. and a spirit stove from camping shops etc. beats canned gas.

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  90. Alright. I'm down on the permatopia concept. Nobody can argue with sustainability except the banker/political/MIC elite class. They want to enforce complete dependence on their government fema cheese. Check out these links for Aquaponics. I'd love to have a larger piece of rural land to incorporate these layered approaches to sustainability:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jV9CCxdkOng&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qZPwBPAqks

    www.growingpower.org/

    www.seagrant.wisc.edu/

    You're a bit harsh on Kirwan. Bottom line, I think he's simply calling Bullshit, and suggesting a line in the sand must be drawn for every individual as well as society as to authoritarian "creep" into our lives. I agree. I would he'd embrace biodiversity and permatopia concepts as well, but that's for him to answer. Trading carbon credits and other attempts to "impose" (read "force") compliance to some stinktank conjured roundabout for making more dough off people can always be seen to be bullshit. Brown. Not Green.

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  91. One piece of corroborating evidence to the above postulation:
    http://endthelie.com/2011/12/25/syrian-ngos-working-directly-with-british-government/#axzz1hg7C48Nt

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  92. What ever your impudence for coming on here straining shit through your teeth is Waldor, is beyond me.

    But yea, ya eat, you have the right to poop - most folks do it from the other end though.

    Personally I have had enough of your "simplicity", take it all up with someone else, your ticker ran out with me.
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  93. Thanks for a well thought out list of survival stocks Oz.

    I suppose everyone here has the sense that the fast forward button has been pushed and we are off in interstellar overdrive.

    If nothing else 2012 is going to be one of them zoom*rides.
    Might as well take the thrills and roll with the punches.
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  94. I did not declare a war of violence against this state. The fact is this state has waged an undeclared war of violence against the people. It has only recently stepped out of the closet in it's jackboots as what it really has been all along. This began in earnest in 2001 with the PATRIOT Act, the Military Commissions Act, the activation of COG.
    Above and beyond this is the deep secret high-tech war of silent weapons that COTO has highlighted in these pages.

    But just last month Congress declared that war against the people in no uncertain terms in the NDAA 2012 legislation. To suggest that it is premature to discuss the likelihood of hysteria, panic and violence is simply jejune. To assume that the legislation was not passed with these themes in mind is delusional. To think that the state is 'reactive' in this ongoing process is to turn the sequence backward – this is a proactive process masquerading as reaction by means of provocation, and perception manipulation. Witnessing the stages of this progress these last ten years should make it obvious that the finale is in preparation as we speak.

    This is a system that has the openly declared intent of gaining full spectrum dominance over us. Must it be pointed out that the idea of making a deal with such pathological maniacs is but a suicidal wish? No – the only rational deal is to demand their absolute surrender in stepping down and giving themselves up. After all, they are offering nothing less than that themselves, they demand absolute subservience. IS THIS NOT CLEAR?
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  95. Science


    Science and Censorship: A Duel Lasting Centuries

    By WILLIAM J. BROAD

    Published: December 26, 2011
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    {you will have to look up the article, I don't have the URL - I got it in an email}:


    This is a slick hand that mentions Sir Francis Bacon and "illuminating" in the same paragraph.

    Frankly the notion that the "government" has any concern for general health other than destroying it is ludicrous when one is aware of a basic understanding of what is at the center of their agenda.

    Of course the New York Times puts all "news" and the anvil to shape it as "news FIT to print."

    Still, mentioning The New Atlantis in an article on the certain subject is of deep interest to me. The article is addressed to a certain segment of initiates in code here. This is in the subtext, it is revealing the agenda I mention above.

    This seems to be verifying that the main weapon for the culling will be biological. They hope - they had better have more than a secret handshake on the deal. It will be a "show time" of course when the real spicy double-crossing goes on - and who will stand last as king of the mountain.

    But this is of little concern to us - as we are not choosing one side or the other, but "coming out from amongst them" - and ours is to dodge and weave, and be quick of wit, and attend our grasp on sanity and our humanity.

    BEWARE OF THEIR "CURES".

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  96. That is The New York Times...
    By WILLIAM J. BROAD
    Published: December 26, 2011

    I didn't notice it was a jpg logo when I copied and pasted it for the title.
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  97. Hoolah-doolah! wotta thread! brilliant chop, JG! mebbe this is nummer hunnert... wotever... keeps me comin back- even if eye gotta throw sum sugarplums at willie-wonka's chock-lit-factory.

    aw now, willlburrrr... dint mean to piss ya off. as a greenie- sump times it drives meme crazy wit dat "global warming is an illuminati plot" glot. no- it aint no hoax- but it doesn't matter. we'll find out soon enuff. JG nailed it with the lizard-people... they is the kind of evil eye sensed round the krema at Birkenau.

    as for all dat Paul-de-roll... good a sock-puppet as any... except he doesn't get it. only a gummint has the force and speed to do what we all need... but first we have to HAVE one... and we don't. wot we got instead is a cabal of criminal psychopaths determined to kill 80% of us. So we are probably gonna do what needs to be done ourselves. Slower- less coordinated, maybe... but the #kids get it. we don't have time to dilly about dollars.

    "...demand their absolute surrender in stepping down and giving themselves up." --ww. Agree absolutely... and right now, the #kids are askin' em nice. as the lizards escalate, so will we... in ways they can't imagine... but we CAN. the jackboot wot stomps on our greens will have one less leg to fry.

    what oz said upthread with the roos and deep doo-doos.

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  98. I can't understand why Anybody does not understand your most Obvious point Rogue1?

    And us asking them to surrender is a real knee-slapper, aye? So, what's left? Write letters to the CONgress until you get writer's cramps? The CONgress that let's this treason fly by their conscience? Conduct Occupy protests in place of bringing in a paycheck; so's you scare those bluebloods real bad into coming down from their ivory towers so's you can turn em over to the "authorities"? What Hilarity these actions engender? I'm crying if I'm laughing!

    Pray tell -- what might get their attention brainiacs? This is the conundrum, and the answer to it is as "self-evident" as your unalienable Rights they are-a-squashin. Look at some of the titles over on infowars. The terrorist war is happening in-country, only they want to blame it on the civilians?! WTF?!!! Another knee-slapper! These mutants are slipperier than a greased snake. Snakes Alive!

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  99. "When a US sponsored nuclear war becomes an "instrument of peace", condoned and accepted by the World's institutions and the highest authority, including the United Nations, there is no turning back: human society has indelibly been precipitated headlong onto the path of self-destruction."

    www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=28355


    (Towards a World War III Scenario, Global Research, May 2011)
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  100. "American Fascist Sandwich" by Browne is one of the most precise pieces read in a long time. Quite a contrast to "Obama- TRAITOR (fill in exclamation marks til eyeballs melt) Browne nails it right here:

    "Conspiracy theory 'lunatics' are having the last laugh as their warnings are now bearing fruit. It is no longer outrageous conjecture to believe our own government is intent on our demise."

    That is what makes us COTO... whether we agree on various "conspiracies" or not, one thing is OBVIOUS- whatever we think the "government" is... this cabal of fascist pukes intends to kill large numbers of us... soon. "911" did it for me.

    We aint in Kansas any more. Evil Santas and all.

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  101. I'm not pissed off at anything Waldo - just baffled by your jive ass stinkbug bop.

    The final thing I want to say to you here is, I have no "points" for you Waldo, in any aspect of how that word is defined.
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  102. “Woe – Here it comes...here comes the night.”~Van Morrison
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  103. "Our data shows a distinct transition point from March 2 through 9 inclusive. Thereafter we shift into release language. Permanently, or as close to that state as may be forecast from this point in time. It makes sense to consider, from the perspective of this moment in the waning days of December 2011, just which things in our environment we can change at this moment, to help tilt the table back away from the death spiral for our species."~Clif High

    http://www.halfpasthuman.com/destiny.html

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  104. In the study of power, there are none so astute nor succinct as martial artists who have frequently observed, “be in harmony with universe, and though you may be killed, you cannot be defeated.”

    The only proper response to 'full spectrum dominance” is full spectrum defiance.

    COTO has declared this as our position clearly.

    Do not think of this as “mere” words, for your souls and your destiny are here in these defiant words. They have consequence that can barely be imagined – with a potential for both the positive and the negative – for they are not written in a vacuum but become part of a great sea of human commentary.

    And within this sea there are the sharks of surveillance seeking fresh blood. But these are public words reaching and touching others, and this lends to the positive no matter how great the risks are at this dark time.

    Do not take lightly that this activity draws a target on you. Be aware of it without fear, for as in all things it is the scent that draws the predator.
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  105. A Word on Strategy:

    What is the strategy to deal with such as an opponent as ours?
    It has the appearance of omnipotence. Yet we have spoken long and deep into what and how 'appearance' is a product of perception manipulation.

    The central truth is there is only one power that is omnipotent, and it is not in the hand of any man, but in the souls of many.

    The true strategy is always 'self defense'. And self defense is a "response" not an initiation. Therefore to be true it is spontaneous - not a plan. It is the "No Plan School" of the Art of War. To have no plan is to have no plan to conceal, therefore no plan to reveal.

    The spontaneous is the most natural response to all things. Restraint is proper as a balance, restraint is let go as a spontaneous act to counter an attack. The practitioner is always seeking balance, the chi - the balance with the universe.

    There is no fear in this center - only concentration on the moment - focus.
    Now is the moment of power - always.
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  106. Well...Alrighty Then! There's a schism here in the ole USA.

    Some people want to attack the citizens of the United States of America as "terrorists, useless eaters, sheeple, chattel, etc." Yeah! We got that point! We fucking LIVE HERE!

    Then...there's some people who want to Protect the citizens of the United States of America. Some "useless pResident" said "you're either with us or against us". O.K. Corral. We'll stew on that and decide (because WE ARE THE DECIDERS) which side we're on. We'll get back to you on that....BUT, WE are paying attention to our faux "elected leaders" Actions.

    Here's some other folks paying attention for your consideration:

    "Oath Keepers Launches National Effort to Recall and/or Remove Members of Congress Who Voted for NDAA Military Detention".

    http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?llr=ira8vadab&v=001hufgit2uCW_t_IUveZCvfsvUbjTan1j5D3qW9WrAYbGyWRK_Mv6ncWBKWPgorIX0O2W9WPZUqtkqeax5yN8qrh5KJlb8rQBq30E8QKq4SHlG0l_lmRyi5KZHGIlSrmivvcoRgdE5-BUIysdKS3jcv_2EpH94Fop9PsbYv9K8veXyluhelrM3DlvE5Q4L4PAR

    "25% Of Marines Would Shoot Americans, 100% Of Oath Keepers Would Shoot Them Back. (1/2)"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iTKH1n0N_E&feature=youtu.be

    "25% Of Marines Would Shoot Americans, 100% Of Oath Keepers Would Shoot Them Back (2/2)"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f8oWVZ3Qwg&feature=youtu.be

    Billy Jack is “FED” UP!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXXyms5g5ok

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  107. Boomer, and waldo,
    couple of your posts and what I am reading, suggests for the majority if the laws enacted lately are a guide, and then looking at Stalins example of control of land food animals, a small few pschycopaths and followers, preferably the young teens to twenties, can manage to kill millions via starvation/outright murder, within just a few short years .
    and then I see the big agri takeovers as similar to the collective actions then.
    the removal of the ability to grow food via control of seedstock right now is exactl;y the same..
    banks replace central govt in name, only- the action of taking land back is the same, now its a banksters/NGO fronts for restrictive laws for "carbon" instead of mother/fatherland, exactly the same as removing settlements and towns to large central containment,
    it's now done by bribery via being green and getting the holier than thou green smugness( while consuming ever excess, with no physical relation to the goods or producers)
    TSA road rail air bus and sport events searches and ID..wheres the difference between that and communist border searches? but this is INside your own country and even state borders.
    theyve got a huge amount of power for non military/police -as?- security style employees..but who's oath have they taken I ponder??
    reeks of similar greenpolice and brownish shirts once not so long ago..
    the entire populace but especially minorities (not just racial but others too) and rural folks treated as permanently guilty, and having to prove innocence.
    speech against political parties rulers and naming specific people and parlous actions is to be seen as unpatriotic? yet without checks balances and questions, you don't Have a safe leadership. I always thought the above reproach method was the desired goal, and that means FOI and free speech. we have the thought police via PC..so saying the absolute truth and calling someone stupid... or a dictator etc etc is hurting their feelings and image..
    :-) all they have to do is prove they aren't after all., then an apology may be due.
    we are all in our various countries falling subject to far too many of the past dirty moves, toward control by a very few, and exactly the same as then, people refuse to see.
    so what can we do?
    resist remain aware and plan to be a survivor, whatever it takes.

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