That's fantastic M. I know you'll be there. Next week MANY cities and towns will be joining in, including Philly. Not only is this inspiring but it's a real adrenaline rush for those of us so tired of seeing nothing but a sea of complacent sheeple, caring little and doing nothing while their country is taken over by fascism.
If nothing comes from this, at least we can say we tried. That we aren't like the people in Hitler's, Germany that we read about and wondered about in history class.
Saying WE Tried will never be good enough. Not even close. Humanity Must Determine to NOT SUCCUMB to rampant and rabid evil. Shoulder to shoulder, mind to mind, the WE can bend the world to their Will. It has been ignorance, purposeful ignorance on the part of humanity "moving on" to get along. As WE see there is Zero "getting along" with psychopaths. Their deranged dna always compels them to endlessly and predictably attempt to subjugate all others by any means at their disposal.
It is OUR (humanity) duty to break down and remove all power structures at Their disposal, and cast these parasites into a place where they can no longer harm the earth and its "normal" people.
Roseanne brought up one of the most obvious and blatant issues there is;
Corporations are NOT people.
WTF???
How can anyone be soooo stupid as to buy into this corporate personhood nonsense?
This has gone on for a long oinking time. Whattay you crazy??
Bring me Mr. Chase Manhattan because I'm afraid he has been sentenced to have his head removed. You say he's a person? Okay, then the guy deemed to be running this outfit is the guy WE shall call Mr. Chase Manhattan. We will fucking decide - got that?
Now Mr. Monsanto...ah yes a whole family of Mr. and Mrs. Monsanto's, all ready with the dotted lines etched on their necks...
And Mr. Federal Reserve... we are going to cut YOUR particular head off with an Exacto-blade...yes it will be slow - I understand a bit painful...or no, like the dentist says, "some discomfort"...har har har...
They want "personhood" lets give them some frickin' personhood.
Okay?
Now for all of those destine for Syrian torture chambers...we have a lot of "personhood" designation to take care of - easy, the stand-ins will be the CEOs and the movers and shakers found behind the various corporate thrones...tongues will wag once the train leaves the station. these slimy fucks will squeal like pigs on each other...just one look at the big shiny blade on the parallel rails gleaming in the midday sun...INCENTIVE...yes. Let's give that PERSONHOOD some incentive.
[Thank you to the people of France, who brought this idea forward originally.] \\ii//
"Geithner reminds me of the bad guy from Ghost."~NeverA
Wow did you nail that...Lol...exactly. It is amazing how you can look at these people and SEE the ponerism dripping from their pores. It comes out of their eyes like a dark black light...woowoo.
My last comment there took me into thinking how "They" dump all this money and effort into "profiling" us - all this super duper technology on 'facial recognition', "Intent Reading" algorithms, mini-drones with TV cameras...the whole set of panoptic woowoo - when all we have to do is look at them and listen to their Newspeak to "profile" one of them.
Yea, these "terrorists" all have 9 lives !! They kill them over and over but they never die..ahahahhahaha
Assess on CNN can talk of only this. As if it's a REAL story. They are pushing he was an Amerikan, for all it's worth. Homegrown terrorist dontcha know ;)
Yes...HOMEGROWN...precedent...it's OKAY now doncha know...domestic drones are already aloft...woowoo circles the Amerikan skies now...
Birdshot? Wasp size...just a big can of spray-glue would gum up the works nicely. Outfit some spray glue with wasp spray nozzles...could be an up and coming underground industry........
I remember pinning all the mosquitoes to the walls in GA just turning on the ceiling fan full blast...torrents they could not fly in. Then they were sitting ducks for the flyswatter....
Think this through - we will be facing these miniaturized little woowoos in the near future - huh...the future is now...keep your eyes pealed.
In the past year alone, rogue deputies assaulted hundreds of non-resisting inmates, according to chaplains, other civilians and prisoners. In fact, anything can provoke abuse or nothing at all. Deputies attacked inmates for complaining about missing property, requesting medical treatment, or for their race or ethnicity. Prisoners in wheelchairs were beaten. "Many attacks are unprovoked. Nearly all go unpunished." Higher-ups cover up and deny them, refusing to acknowledge their pervasiveness. Deputy-on-inmate and inmate-on-inmate violence and abuse are out-of-control. Nothing this extreme should be permitted, yet it continues unchallenged. Deputies beat and kick inmates. They slam their heads into walls and windows. They Taser them unprovoked. They use other prisoners to do their dirty work. Examples are numerous. One or more times, one inmate sexually assaulted another with a broomstick. Another was raped with his head forced down a flushing toilet. "All of this occurred with the apparent cooperation of LASD employees."~Steven Lendman \\ii//
It is real interesting how things are getting so woowoo - right at the cusp of Sept/Oct just like the TWZ [Time Wave Zero] chart shows...now ain-tits?
We got "splash down" rocky road all the way to November 15th or so...hmm.
That is what I can see on the chart at this resolution....
There seems to be an out and out revolution going on in NY and spreading. Wouldn't know it by the MSM news though....
Meanwhile tensions in M E and the Israeli Palestine issue are boiling over... Hoot hoot the pooter shoot... Libya has stagnated for the UN assault...??? Bigger heavier rocks are due to be thrown there...maybe even a US ground assault.
And of course the "market" is on the edge of the abyss...
My my the Big Weird is doing the cha cha cha... \\ii//
The fact that Marines are joining the protest to protect the people and uphold their own Constitutional {and moral} vow, is a HUGE development. This will grow, and provides a military/police force element on the side of the People. The People's right arm and Will just got a lot stronger. Perhaps Justice will follow the lead, and the criminal cabal will begin to be arrested? Let us hope!
I heard about the Marines Boom...but this White Hats alert about the Fed being dead is...ah, "unsubstantiated"...I think that is the word I'm looking for.
What do you get from that??? I haven't seen any word that China has refused to deal with the Fed??? That would be a big deal, but the only place this seems to be coming from is an email from 'somebody' on Rumormill...
Elliott Abrams, icon of the Reagan era Iran-Contra scandal. Such statements by the freed Americans left “a very bad taste” in Abrams’ mouth. “Who exactly are the ‘political prisoners’ in America?” he blogged on the Council of Foreign Relations website. “Can we have some names?”
Rather then “names”, here is a category of political prisoners – any prisoner kept in a US jail or prison that is not afforded the rights guaranteed by the Bill of Rights...which means a great majority of the prisoners in the US. \\][//
“There are no excuses left. Either you join the revolt taking place on Wall Street and in the financial districts of other cities across the country or you stand on the wrong side of history. Either you obstruct, in the only form left to us, which is civil disobedience, the plundering by the criminal class on Wall Street and accelerated destruction of the ecosystem that sustains the human species, or become the passive enabler of a monstrous evil. Either you taste, feel and smell the intoxication of freedom and revolt or sink into the miasma of despair and apathy. Either you are a rebel or a slave.” To be declared innocent in a country where the rule of law means nothing, where we have undergone a corporate coup, where the poor and working men and women are reduced to joblessness and hunger, where war, financial speculation and internal surveillance are the only real business of the state, where even habeas corpus no longer exists, where you, as a citizen, are nothing more than a commodity to corporate systems of power, one to be used and discarded, is to be complicit in this radical evil. To stand on the sidelines and say “I am innocent” is to bear the mark of Cain; it is to do nothing to reach out and help the weak, the oppressed and the suffering, to save the planet. To be innocent in times like these is to be a criminal. Ask Tim DeChristopher.~Chris Hedges
The New York financial district, where the mandarins in Brooks Brothers suits use your money, money they stole from you, to gamble and speculate and gorge themselves while one in four children outside those barricades depend on food stamps to eat. Speculation in the 17th century was a crime. Speculators were hanged. Today they run the state and the financial markets. They disseminate the lies that pollute our airwaves. The only word these corporations know is more. They are disemboweling every last social service program funded by the taxpayers, from education to Social Security, because they want that money themselves. Let the sick die. Let the poor go hungry. Let families be tossed in the street. Let the unemployed rot. Let children in the inner city or rural wastelands learn nothing and live in misery and fear. Let the students finish school with no jobs and no prospects of jobs. Let the prison system, the largest in the industrial world, expand to swallow up all potential dissenters. Let torture continue. Let teachers, police, firefighters, postal employees and social workers join the ranks of the unemployed. Let the roads, bridges, dams, levees, power grids, rail lines, subways, bus services, schools and libraries crumble or close. Let the rising temperatures of the planet, the freak weather patterns, the hurricanes, the droughts, the flooding, the tornadoes, the melting polar ice caps, the poisoned water systems, the polluted air increase until the species dies. ~Chris Hedges \\][//
THE PSYCHOLOGY OF AUTHORITY AND PERCEPTION, VERSUS RESPONSE
In order to understand the mystery of seemingly blind compliance to authority, there is perhaps no better sample of human nature than the 1961 experiments on "Obedience to Authority," conducted by Dr. Stanley Milgram, a psychologist at Yale University. His studies were spawned by the recent trial and execution of Adolph Eichmann. The results were posted in Milgram's "Obedience to Authority: An Experimental View" (1974).
Milgram focused on the propensity for obedience to authority, versus the role of personal conscience. His work was in consequence of the rationalizations and justifications for the Nazi acts of genocide – as offered by the accused at the World War II, Nuremberg War Crime trials. The perpetrators’ defense was typically based on "obedience" - claiming that they were "… just obeying orders" under the authority of their superiors. However weak the claim may have appeared, it was firmly believed, by the accused. In particular, the Nazi perpetrators were well educated and members of the German aristocracy.
The Eichmann trial stirred the question as to how easy it would be for ‘good’ and educated (American) people (college degree) to be conditioned to commit even murder – in exchange for simple "acceptance and approval." What if Eichmann, and his accomplices were, in fact, "….just following orders."
More directly, the Milgram study demonstrated the propensity for people to submit to even ‘mild,’ even "presumed" authority – let alone threat or even internal fears. (Not even notable amounts of money were required.) The psychiatrists of the day forecast that 2% of any population would be compliant – the ‘sickos;’ the Milgram Study demonstrated 65%!
I would posit that after 30 more years of this PR operation the case would now be more like 80% in Amerika. \\][//
They fall under a bunch of "categories". They're the type that says, "They haven't come for me yet", so why bother getting off my ass, or having an original thought.
Too many sheep with their heads down grazing on the grazz.
Will, where did you get under a thousand ?? There were 5,000 + at the march yesterday. ...700 were arrested. You need to watch the videos and see the crowds for yourself. I've been following this thing for days now and it's obvious the crowds have multiplied exponentially.
Whatever you do , do NOT believe what lamestream or mainstream alternative media is saying. They have lied from day one. When they do cover OWS they say downplay it as if it's gonna go away and they have no message. Idiots! It's occupy wall street, the message is, americans are tired of being screwed by the Goldman Sachs of the world...that's all they need to know !
Of course, they don't want that msg to go out because that's who THEY work for, the presstitute bastards !
THey don't need a list of demands now. ALl they need are americans pissed off at the system. The demands can come later. If the demands are too many or too few people will pick them apart.
Just pulled it outta my butt...but, what I meant was what I meant regardless...
Yes, it is growing exponentially and I AM feeling good about that ...
My point that there SHOULD be millions rests on the MK thing of TV like you mention.
I am not trying to denigrate Occupy WS in any way...just talking about the horrors of MK there.
I agree with you - the DEMANDS are implicit in the people being on Wall St. What do the Wall Streeters do? That in itself is what must be ended...pick the fucking bronze bull up by the bolts and melt it down into pitch forks and get the show on the road...yea? yea.....
In the 70s there were demonstrations in Washington DC at the Lincoln Monument - 100s of thousands...perhaps even a million kids.
Wm. Pepper, the barrister from England wrote a book called ORDERS TO KILL about the assassination of Martin Luther King wherein he proves absolutely that there were back up US military hit squads in case the patsy didn't get King.
In that book he reveals the dialog at one of the inside meetings between Nixon and his staff and the military chiefs...They were shitting their pants over this. They really thought that it would spread and they would end up hanging from lamp posts...very exciting reading for a revolutionary...Lol
Anyway - we really do need those numbers...I hope we get them.
Will, I can assure you they want to destroy that bull. However if they even tried, they'd send in the storm troopers. That's exactly the kind of thing the bastards, including Bloomberg, are waiting for. The peacefulness of the protest is pissing them off royally, I'm sure.
They'd like to make the protesters look like nothing more than mad animals roaming the streets looking to destroy and loot.. They haven't given them that.....yet.. waiting on the agent provacateurs.
Good thing I'm not there though. I would not be able to keep my big mouth shut !! LOL
I agree.. we need at least 10's of thousands in the streets all over the U.S. With the economy looking more dire every day, I don't think it will be long.. More and more people will be out of work and pissed off and have the time to attend a nice peaceful march :)
“J.P. Morgan Chase “donates” $4.6 Million to NYPD” #OccupyWallStreet JPMorgan Chase recently donated an unprecedented $4.6 million to the New York City Police Foundation. The gift was the largest in the history of the foundation and will enable the New York City Police Department to strengthen security in the Big Apple. The money will pay for 1,000 new patrol car laptops, as well as security monitoring software in the NYPD’s main data center. New York City Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly sent CEO and Chairman Jamie Dimon a note expressing “profound gratitude” for the company’s donation. “These officers put their lives on the line every day to keep us safe,” Dimon said. “We’re incredibly proud to help them build this program and let them know how much we value their hard work.” [JPMORGAN CHASE CORPORATE] \\][//
Will, I saw that yesterday. Someone posted the link on the OWS livestream chat. I didn't post because I didn't know if it was true or not. I couldn't find a reliable source to verify.
I tend to believe it's true because why wouldn't they?
“These officers put their lives on the line every day to keep us safe,” Dimon said. “We’re incredibly proud to help them build this program and let them know how much we value their hard work.” [JPMORGAN CHASE CORPORATE]
HaHaHa!!! Its Jamie "Pavlovian" Dimon paying-off the NY Police! I believe that's how the statement reads? Is anybody to interpret it some other way? Dimon is still doing "God's Work" while paying off the Police with a "donation"? That's it?
Call a Pay-off a "donation", and the Police receiving their "due" for all their protecting and "stuff". Yeah, Yeah...
Infantile lying, working for the Big Boys. HarHarHardly...
To change your gravatar...in the upper right hand corner of your coto taskbar you should see your name and your present icon.... hover over it. in the dropbox you'll see "edit my profile"....then on the right you'll see your icon and underneath it "change your gravatar" ..then just follow the directions to do so .
Yea, but yet, there are enough really brainwashed people out there that would believe they were being oh so altruistic in doing so. That's the real sickening part.
http://tarpley.net/2011/09/29/emergency-program-for-anti-wall-street-protestors/
ReplyDeleteTarpley has good ideas as to how to avoid being co-opted by the status quo.
And he offers some good ideas for substantial demands.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/09/wall-street-protest-growing.html
Washington's blog offers some good photos and videos.
You are right JG - this is going viral.
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You can add New Orleans. Meet with students today that are planing a Oct. 2nd Occupation.
ReplyDeleteThat's fantastic M. I know you'll be there. Next week MANY cities and towns will be joining in, including Philly. Not only is this inspiring but it's a real adrenaline rush for those of us so tired of seeing nothing but a sea of complacent sheeple, caring little and doing nothing while their country is taken over by fascism.
ReplyDeleteIf nothing comes from this, at least we can say we tried. That we aren't like the people in Hitler's, Germany that we read about and wondered about in history class.
Saying WE Tried will never be good enough. Not even close. Humanity Must Determine to NOT SUCCUMB to rampant and rabid evil. Shoulder to shoulder, mind to mind, the WE can bend the world to their Will. It has been ignorance, purposeful ignorance on the part of humanity "moving on" to get along. As WE see there is Zero "getting along" with psychopaths. Their deranged dna always compels them to endlessly and predictably attempt to subjugate all others by any means at their disposal.
ReplyDeleteIt is OUR (humanity) duty to break down and remove all power structures at Their disposal, and cast these parasites into a place where they can no longer harm the earth and its "normal" people.
Yes Boomer, I agree !!! I KNOW we are going to win. Call me psychic or psycho either way, I just KNOW.
ReplyDeleteI LOVE the Keiser... Little Timmy Geithner played in the same park as Max as kids. Says Max "he had the eyes of the devil!" hahhaha
ReplyDeletehttp://rt.com/programs/keiser-report/barr-191-keiser-wallstreet/
Btw, really cool interview with Roseanne Barr at the end. Roseanne for prez, Keiser for Secty of treasury :)
Roseanne brought up one of the most obvious and blatant issues there is;
ReplyDeleteCorporations are NOT people.
WTF???
How can anyone be soooo stupid as to buy into this corporate personhood nonsense?
This has gone on for a long oinking time. Whattay you crazy??
Bring me Mr. Chase Manhattan because I'm afraid he has been sentenced to have his head removed. You say he's a person? Okay, then the guy deemed to be running this outfit is the guy WE shall call Mr. Chase Manhattan. We will fucking decide - got that?
Now Mr. Monsanto...ah yes a whole family of Mr. and Mrs. Monsanto's, all ready with the dotted lines etched on their necks...
And Mr. Federal Reserve... we are going to cut YOUR particular head off with an Exacto-blade...yes it will be slow - I understand a bit painful...or no, like the dentist says, "some discomfort"...har har har...
They want "personhood" lets give them some frickin' personhood.
Okay?
Now for all of those destine for Syrian torture chambers...we have a lot of "personhood" designation to take care of - easy, the stand-ins will be the CEOs and the movers and shakers found behind the various corporate thrones...tongues will wag once the train leaves the station. these slimy fucks will squeal like pigs on each other...just one look at the big shiny blade on the parallel rails gleaming in the midday sun...INCENTIVE...yes.
Let's give that PERSONHOOD some incentive.
[Thank you to the people of France, who brought this idea forward originally.]
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Geithner reminds me of the bad guy from Ghost. They have the same look.
ReplyDelete"Geithner reminds me of the bad guy from Ghost."~NeverA
ReplyDeleteWow did you nail that...Lol...exactly. It is amazing how you can look at these people and SEE the ponerism dripping from their pores. It comes out of their eyes like a dark black light...woowoo.
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My last comment there took me into thinking how "They" dump all this money and effort into "profiling" us - all this super duper technology on 'facial recognition', "Intent Reading" algorithms, mini-drones with TV cameras...the whole set of panoptic woowoo - when all we have to do is look at them and listen to their Newspeak to "profile" one of them.
ReplyDeleteThey unmask themselves by their very presence.
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PIGS ON A BRIDGE 10/1 OWS
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sItWPMXkRmU
Reports from ground say over 400 arrested including a very young girl..
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvzpHJ7VJzM
FOX NEWS ON DECEMBER 24, 2009 reported that Anwar Al Awlaki was killed by a U.S. drone strike in Yemen.
ReplyDeleteTIME Magazine also reported this.
So we have another mysterious "bin Ladenesque" zombie being "killed" over and again by the US....Lol
Yea this is science fiction for sure....
WTF?
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Brooklyn Bridge is falling down falling down falling down ...
ReplyDeleteAll the piggies act a'clown act a'clown act a'clown
Brooklyn Bridge is falling down ... My fair lady
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Yea, these "terrorists" all have 9 lives !! They kill them over and over but they never die..ahahahhahaha
ReplyDeleteAssess on CNN can talk of only this. As if it's a REAL story. They are pushing he was an Amerikan, for all it's worth. Homegrown terrorist dontcha know ;)
Yes...HOMEGROWN...precedent...it's OKAY now doncha know...domestic drones are already aloft...woowoo circles the Amerikan skies now...
ReplyDeleteBirdshot? Wasp size...just a big can of spray-glue would gum up the works nicely. Outfit some spray glue with wasp spray nozzles...could be an up and coming underground industry........
I remember pinning all the mosquitoes to the walls in GA just turning on the ceiling fan full blast...torrents they could not fly in. Then they were sitting ducks for the flyswatter....
Think this through - we will be facing these miniaturized little woowoos in the near future - huh...the future is now...keep your eyes pealed.
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15 veteran Marines coming tomorrow and will wear their dress blues to protect protesters from being maced. They will take the front line.
ReplyDeleteArmy members also expected.
And what ever you do - don't ever go to jail...
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PRISON HELL IN AMERIKA
In the past year alone, rogue deputies assaulted hundreds of non-resisting inmates, according to chaplains, other civilians and prisoners.
In fact, anything can provoke abuse or nothing at all. Deputies attacked inmates for complaining about missing property, requesting medical treatment, or for their race or ethnicity.
Prisoners in wheelchairs were beaten. "Many attacks are unprovoked. Nearly all go unpunished." Higher-ups cover up and deny them, refusing to acknowledge their pervasiveness.
Deputy-on-inmate and inmate-on-inmate violence and abuse are out-of-control. Nothing this extreme should be permitted, yet it continues unchallenged.
Deputies beat and kick inmates. They slam their heads into walls and windows. They Taser them unprovoked. They use other prisoners to do their dirty work. Examples are numerous.
One or more times, one inmate sexually assaulted another with a broomstick. Another was raped with his head forced down a flushing toilet. "All of this occurred with the apparent cooperation of LASD employees."~Steven Lendman
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It is stacking up to either a revolution or a coup d'etat....
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Yup
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It is real interesting how things are getting so woowoo - right at the
ReplyDeletecusp of Sept/Oct just like the TWZ [Time Wave Zero] chart shows...now ain-tits?
We got "splash down" rocky road all the way to November 15th or so...hmm.
That is what I can see on the chart at this resolution....
There seems to be an out and out revolution going on in NY and spreading.
Wouldn't know it by the MSM news though....
Meanwhile tensions in M E and the Israeli Palestine issue are boiling over...
Hoot hoot the pooter shoot...
Libya has stagnated for the UN assault...??? Bigger heavier rocks are
due to be thrown there...maybe even a US ground assault.
And of course the "market" is on the edge of the abyss...
My my the Big Weird is doing the cha cha cha...
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History being made tonight?
ReplyDeleteMaybe -- http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=217110
The fact that Marines are joining the protest to protect the people and uphold their own Constitutional {and moral} vow, is a HUGE development. This will grow, and provides a military/police force element on the side of the People. The People's right arm and Will just got a lot stronger. Perhaps Justice will follow the lead, and the criminal cabal will begin to be arrested? Let us hope!
I heard about the Marines Boom...but this White Hats alert about the Fed being dead is...ah, "unsubstantiated"...I think that is the word I'm looking for.
ReplyDeleteWhat do you get from that??? I haven't seen any word that China has refused to deal with the Fed??? That would be a big deal, but the only place this seems to be coming from is an email from 'somebody' on Rumormill...
WTF?
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Boom,
ReplyDeleteIf you do find out anything more about this "World Change" be sure to keep us up on it here.
Okay?
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Pigs leading marchers onto Brooklyn Bridge so they could arrest them..
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz67fULXc-0
Yeah, Rogue1. I realize it is "unsubstantiated". It sure would be nice for the STHTFaces of the elites, however. This is what WE are waiting for...
ReplyDeleteIf I find anything else, I'll of course update here.
By the way, Chris Hedges wrote his piece after visiting OWS. It is short, concise, and to the point -- Freaking Take A Stand NOW People! --
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/09/30-0
Elliott Abrams, icon of the Reagan era Iran-Contra scandal. Such statements by the freed Americans left “a very bad taste” in Abrams’ mouth. “Who exactly are the ‘political prisoners’ in America?” he blogged on the Council of Foreign Relations website. “Can we have some names?”
ReplyDeleteRather then “names”, here is a category of political prisoners – any prisoner kept in a US jail or prison that is not afforded the rights guaranteed by the Bill of Rights...which means a great majority of the prisoners in the US.
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Hey Boom, This article by Hedges is so good, I thought I would put this teaser up here to bring on da COTO to read it:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_best_among_us_20110929/
“There are no excuses left. Either you join the revolt taking place on Wall Street and in the financial districts of other cities across the country or you stand on the wrong side of history. Either you obstruct, in the only form left to us, which is civil disobedience, the plundering by the criminal class on Wall Street and accelerated destruction of the ecosystem that sustains the human species, or become the passive enabler of a monstrous evil. Either you taste, feel and smell the intoxication of freedom and revolt or sink into the miasma of despair and apathy. Either you are a rebel or a slave.”
To be declared innocent in a country where the rule of law means nothing, where we have undergone a corporate coup, where the poor and working men and women are reduced to joblessness and hunger, where war, financial speculation and internal surveillance are the only real business of the state, where even habeas corpus no longer exists, where you, as a citizen, are nothing more than a commodity to corporate systems of power, one to be used and discarded, is to be complicit in this radical evil. To stand on the sidelines and say “I am innocent” is to bear the mark of Cain; it is to do nothing to reach out and help the weak, the oppressed and the suffering, to save the planet. To be innocent in times like these is to be a criminal. Ask Tim DeChristopher.~Chris Hedges
The New York financial district, where the mandarins in Brooks Brothers suits use your money, money they stole from you, to gamble and speculate and gorge themselves while one in four children outside those barricades depend on food stamps to eat. Speculation in the 17th century was a crime. Speculators were hanged. Today they run the state and the financial markets. They disseminate the lies that pollute our airwaves.
The only word these corporations know is more. They are disemboweling every last social service program funded by the taxpayers, from education to Social Security, because they want that money themselves. Let the sick die. Let the poor go hungry. Let families be tossed in the street. Let the unemployed rot. Let children in the inner city or rural wastelands learn nothing and live in misery and fear. Let the students finish school with no jobs and no prospects of jobs. Let the prison system, the largest in the industrial world, expand to swallow up all potential dissenters. Let torture continue. Let teachers, police, firefighters, postal employees and social workers join the ranks of the unemployed. Let the roads, bridges, dams, levees, power grids, rail lines, subways, bus services, schools and libraries crumble or close. Let the rising temperatures of the planet, the freak weather patterns, the hurricanes, the droughts, the flooding, the tornadoes, the melting polar ice caps, the poisoned water systems, the polluted air increase until the species dies. ~Chris Hedges
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THE PSYCHOLOGY OF AUTHORITY AND PERCEPTION,
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In order to understand the mystery of seemingly blind compliance to authority, there is perhaps no better sample of human nature than the 1961 experiments on "Obedience to Authority," conducted by Dr. Stanley Milgram, a psychologist at Yale University. His studies were spawned by the recent trial and execution of Adolph Eichmann. The results were posted in Milgram's "Obedience to Authority: An Experimental View" (1974).
Milgram focused on the propensity for obedience to authority, versus the role of personal conscience. His work was in consequence of the rationalizations and justifications for the Nazi acts of genocide – as offered by the accused at the World War II, Nuremberg War Crime trials. The perpetrators’ defense was typically based on "obedience" - claiming that they were "… just obeying orders" under the authority of their superiors. However weak the claim may have appeared, it was firmly believed, by the accused. In particular, the Nazi perpetrators were well educated and members of the German aristocracy.
The Eichmann trial stirred the question as to how easy it would be for ‘good’ and educated (American) people (college degree) to be conditioned to commit even murder – in exchange for simple "acceptance and approval." What if Eichmann, and his accomplices were, in fact, "….just following orders."
More directly, the Milgram study demonstrated the propensity for people to submit to even ‘mild,’ even "presumed" authority – let alone threat or even internal fears. (Not even notable amounts of money were required.) The psychiatrists of the day forecast that 2% of any population would be compliant – the ‘sickos;’ the Milgram Study demonstrated 65%!
I would posit that after 30 more years of this PR operation the case would now be more like 80% in Amerika.
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The above remarks are why there aren't MILLIONS on Wall St. now instead of a thousand or less....
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They fall under a bunch of "categories". They're the type that says, "They haven't come for me yet", so why bother getting off my ass, or having an original thought.
ReplyDeleteToo many sheep with their heads down grazing on the grazz.
Will, where did you get under a thousand ?? There were 5,000 + at the march yesterday. ...700 were arrested. You need to watch the videos and see the crowds for yourself. I've been following this thing for days now and it's obvious the crowds have multiplied exponentially.
ReplyDeleteWhatever you do , do NOT believe what lamestream or mainstream alternative media is saying. They have lied from day one. When they do cover OWS they say downplay it as if it's gonna go away and they have no message. Idiots! It's occupy wall street, the message is, americans are tired of being screwed by the Goldman Sachs of the world...that's all they need to know !
Of course, they don't want that msg to go out because that's who THEY work for, the presstitute bastards !
THey don't need a list of demands now. ALl they need are americans pissed off at the system. The demands can come later. If the demands are too many or too few people will pick them apart.
"Will, where did you get under a thousand ??"~JG
ReplyDeleteJust pulled it outta my butt...but, what I meant was what I meant regardless...
Yes, it is growing exponentially and I AM feeling good about that ...
My point that there SHOULD be millions rests on the MK thing of TV like you mention.
I am not trying to denigrate Occupy WS in any way...just talking about the horrors of MK there.
I agree with you - the DEMANDS are implicit in the people being on Wall St.
What do the Wall Streeters do? That in itself is what must be ended...pick the fucking bronze bull up by the bolts and melt it down into pitch forks and get the show on the road...yea? yea.....
Hot damn.
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In the 70s there were demonstrations in Washington DC at the Lincoln Monument - 100s of thousands...perhaps even a million kids.
ReplyDeleteWm. Pepper, the barrister from England wrote a book called ORDERS TO KILL about the assassination of Martin Luther King wherein he proves absolutely that there were back up US military hit squads in case the patsy didn't get King.
In that book he reveals the dialog at one of the inside meetings between Nixon and his staff and the military chiefs...They were shitting their pants over this. They really thought that it would spread and they would end up hanging from lamp posts...very exciting reading for a revolutionary...Lol
Anyway - we really do need those numbers...I hope we get them.
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Will, I can assure you they want to destroy that bull. However if they even tried, they'd send in the storm troopers. That's exactly the kind of thing the bastards, including Bloomberg, are waiting for. The peacefulness of the protest is pissing them off royally, I'm sure.
ReplyDeleteThey'd like to make the protesters look like nothing more than mad animals roaming the streets looking to destroy and loot.. They haven't given them that.....yet.. waiting on the agent provacateurs.
Good thing I'm not there though. I would not be able to keep my big mouth shut !! LOL
I agree.. we need at least 10's of thousands in the streets all over the U.S. With the economy looking more dire every day, I don't think it will be long.. More and more people will be out of work and pissed off and have the time to attend a nice peaceful march :)
ReplyDelete"Good thing I’m not there though. I would not be able to keep my big mouth shut !! LOL"~JG
ReplyDeleteYea...I would be in big trouble in that environment...all I'd have to see is one pepper spraying goon and it would be all over.
The "founders" found that "peaceful protest" only takes a movement so far...
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http://12160.info/profiles/blogs/j-p-morgan-chase-donates-4-6-million-to-nypd-occupywallstreet
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“J.P. Morgan Chase “donates” $4.6 Million to NYPD” #OccupyWallStreet
JPMorgan Chase recently donated an unprecedented $4.6 million to the New York City Police Foundation. The gift was the largest in the history of the foundation and will enable the New York City Police Department to strengthen security in the Big Apple. The money will pay for 1,000 new patrol car laptops, as well as security monitoring software in the NYPD’s main data center.
New York City Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly sent CEO and Chairman Jamie Dimon a note expressing “profound gratitude” for the company’s donation.
“These officers put their lives on the line every day to keep us safe,” Dimon said. “We’re incredibly proud to help them build this program and let them know how much we value their hard work.”
[JPMORGAN CHASE CORPORATE]
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Will, I saw that yesterday. Someone posted the link on the OWS livestream chat. I didn't post because I didn't know if it was true or not. I couldn't find a reliable source to verify.
ReplyDeleteI tend to believe it's true because why wouldn't they?
"I tend to believe it’s true because why wouldn’t they?"~JG
ReplyDeleteI tend to believe it’s true because it's their MO.
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Exactly !
ReplyDeleteYou change avatars like most folks change underwear Jersey...
ReplyDeleteI don't know how, or I would change mine to that image of my Charlie sculpture I sent you.
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“These officers put their lives on the line every day to keep us safe,” Dimon said. “We’re incredibly proud to help them build this program and let them know how much we value their hard work.”
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HaHaHa!!! Its Jamie "Pavlovian" Dimon paying-off the NY Police! I believe that's how the statement reads? Is anybody to interpret it some other way? Dimon is still doing "God's Work" while paying off the Police with a "donation"? That's it?
Call a Pay-off a "donation", and the Police receiving their "due" for all their protecting and "stuff". Yeah, Yeah...
Infantile lying, working for the Big Boys. HarHarHardly...
Off topic, but relevant and important:
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By Global Research
URL of this article: www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=26898
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That Boom, is why we are the coalition of the OBVIOUS.
ReplyDeleteSome things simply are obvious - this one is lit like radioactive neon. Bankers buy cops, simple as that.
~Hoota the bamboo snake
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Will...
ReplyDeleteTo change your gravatar...in the upper right hand corner of your coto taskbar you should see your name and your present icon.... hover over it. in the dropbox you'll see "edit my profile"....then on the right you'll see your icon and underneath it "change your gravatar" ..then just follow the directions to do so .
Let me know if you have any problems.
Yea, but yet, there are enough really brainwashed people out there that would believe they were being oh so altruistic in doing so. That's the real sickening part.
ReplyDeleteThanks JG - it doesn't matter now anyway.
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Why not?
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