Active Shooter Crisis Actors Target Mall Shootings via Visionbox (or False Flag Shootings R Us) ~jg
DENVER, CO, October 31, 2012 -- A new group of actors is now available nationwide for active shooter drills and mall shooting full-scale exercises, announced Visionbox, Denver's leading professional actors studio.
Visionbox Crisis Actors are trained in criminal and victim behavior, and bring intense realism to simulated mass casualty incidents in public places.
The actors’ stage acting experience, ranging from Shakespeare to contemporary American theater, enables them to "stay in character" throughout an exercise, and improvise scenes of extreme stress while strictly following official exercise scenarios.
The actors regularly rehearse scenarios involving the Incident Command System and crisis communications, and appear in interactive training films produced in both 2D and stereoscopic 3D.
Producers Jennifer McCray Rincon and John Simmons formed the group to demonstrate emerging security technologies, help first responders visualize life-saving procedures, and assist trainers in delivering superior hands-on crisis response training.
For example, with a large shopping center, the producers review all security camera views and design dramatic scenes specifically for existing camera angles, robotic camera sweeps, and manually-controlled camera moves.
The producers then work with the trainers to create a "prompt book" for the actors so that key scenario developments can be triggered throughout the mall shooting simulation, and caught on tape.
The actors can play the part of the shooters, mall employees, shoppers in the mall, shoppers who continue to arrive at the mall, media reporters and others rushing to the mall, and persons in motor vehicles around the mall.
Visionbox Crisis Actors can also play the role of citizens calling 911 or mall management, or posting comments on social media websites.
During the exercise, the producers use two-way radio to co-direct the Crisis Actors team from the mall dispatch center and at actors’ locations.
Within this framework, the exercise can test the mall's monitoring and communications systems, the mall's safety plan including lockdown and evacuation procedures, the ability of first responders and the mall to coordinate an effective response, and their joint ability to respond to the media and information posted on the Internet.
Security camera footage is edited for after-action reports and future training.
Visionbox is a project of the Colorado Nonprofit Development Center. Crisis Actors is a project of the Colorado Safety Task Force established by Colorado State Senator Steve King.
CHECK OUT THEIR WEBSITE http://crisisactors.org/ HAVE A LOOK AT THE PICTURES POSTED THERE AND TELL ME IT DOESN'T SEND A CHILL DOWN YOUR SPINE.
Shakespeare was right...all the world IS a stage. Particularly where there is a need for murder and mayhem. ~jg
What a surreal development...
ReplyDeleteA dream within a dream - a stage within a stage, where nothing is real - or nothing can be discerned as real or false. Like bringing 'reality TV' to 'reality'.
Is it real or Memorex?
Where is the collective going with this? Where does it start / where does it end?
This is coincidental? The slippage of paradigms at this time? The situation is, shall we say FLUID.
Since this Sandy Hook incident, I have found a lot a fragmentation all around. Running from one bizarre clue to the next. What does it all lead to?
It seems to me that this was a real mass murder that meant to now be mythologized as a 'stage production' - why? So that such mass murders can be reasonably be presented from this point forward as 'stage productions'.
How clever for the psychopaths aye?
This is the Trick Top Hat supreme here, we are definitely entering Lalaland.
The Dark Knight is now as real as your own father...
It leaves the head spinning.
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It reminds me of the worst of liberalism. The kind of PETA nazi's and Fur zombies, Greenpeace torpedos, and other extremists. This is just another segment of the kind of manipulation that should have eveyone opt out.
ReplyDeleteFearless is the keyword. Liberalism whether left or right works on fear. It is time for COTO and other free persons to adopt a zero tolerance to any of these sociopathic stagings and manipulative dialectics.
If we all said we don't care, its not real, don't buy it and made it culture, we'd gain the edge. I think I might send letter to the admin congratulating them on the tony of the production but that the props and players were hideous. Storyline good but the costuming and continuity were atrocious.
Good luck on the Emmy though! :)
Will, surreal is the perfect word for it. This is even too far out for a twilight zone episode. I always liked stories with a twist ending. Now that it's happening in real life..... not so much.
ReplyDeletePatrick, your haunting in connecticut header, while brilliant, is really freaking me out. The shock value is definitely there.
ReplyDeleteBtw, did anyone actually see the movie A Haunting in Connecticut which is based on a true story? If you like scary paranormal stories, that's a very good one.
I was going for the non-traditional concept of haunting that this will be to Obama much as 911 to Bush but since we are in the theatre of committee I'd give it a specter look.
ReplyDeleteI just watched the PCR vid you posted and I am continually praising Paul Craig Roberts as a pure genius of the big picture. He is unvarnished with any agenda, much as Webster T and reporters like Rappaport. Too many others have been erased sadly and PCR has been marginalized for it but he continues on. Thanks for that gem.
I had eralier today made the comment about the mental angle and Orwellian picture. It appears the pre-crime analysis will begin.
ReplyDeletePolice Dept. to Use Internet to Try to Stop Mass Shootings
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/21/nyregion/police-dept-to-use-internet-to-try-to-stop-shootings.html?smid=tw-share&_r=4&
Don't expect a defense.
[Kelly said in a statement. “The goal would be to identify the shooter in cyberspace, engage him there and intervene, possibly using an undercover to get close, and take him into custody or otherwise disrupt his plans.” ]
translated: a bullet to the head (1 of 1.6 billion)
New York-Chicago-DC-Hollywood, a syndicate?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cMM_HgPxJpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64G5FfG2Xpg&feature=player_embedded
NEWTOWN - NEWWORLDORDERTOWN - how transparent
http://www.demandaplan.org/
Another good summation vid including more of the madcap "Harold the Hachetman ME" and Jesse Ventura kickin' some Piers ass. I'm not a violent person but I'd love to see Jesse physically kick his pasty white ass :D
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My pleasure PD because I too am a huge admirer of PCR.
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Step One, then the guns then your right to protest.
Remember Tienanmen Square? It's not going to be as lovely as that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yMFXjkfQMsw
ReplyDeleteWhat's up with AJ? One day he sounds like he thinks Sandy Hook is a false flag, the next he's saying it was done by a crazy violent video game playin' freak on SSRIs. I don't listen to his show anymore unless he has a guest like David Icke or Jesse Vetura on which always makes for good entertainment..
ReplyDeleteYea, "ENOUGH" of this hokey shit...
ReplyDeleteUnbefuckinleavable....this video is MKSupra...
Cancel my prescription for the Resurrection Medication...
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correctomundo mi amiga!
ReplyDeleteStrategically chipping away at the bill-o-rights since the patriot act. we have covered all the acts and scenes in 2800 postings
The actors in this soap opera have come and gone but the edge of darkness and secret storm remain through all my children.
By now all of cototypes should know the fiscal cliff is the grand bargain to the remaining libertarian hold outs. It is another fiat fabrication meant to play out until the problem population is sufficiently weeded out.
Newtown has Reputation as Satanist Hub - no shit sherlock!
ReplyDeletehttp://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/12/23/newtown-has-reputation-as-satanist-hub/
Madonna in sorrow - sacrificial ritual burn
http://skepdigest.awardspace.us/satinnewtown.html
Parents, do you really know where your children are?
It's a full blown Satanic effort from Holyrood west fabian to east rosycross.
ReplyDeleteIt's not just our awakening happening.
Again you can see this dipshit implant the seeds of his credentials. He was a whack job when in Hartford and moved to this little coven especially for the event. These kids were shuffled off in vans. No bodies yet but certainly will be.
ReplyDeleteKnow what else adds to the theory that you and I have of the kids PD? The fact that the parents never saw their child, only a picture of them to identify with. Also,during that entire time "Harold" was performing his hatchet work, there were cops stationed outside each victim's family home.
ReplyDeletePeople say it was to save the parent's more grief and to protect them. I say it was to keep them guarded so that they didn't make any moves to go and see their kids. All funerals were closed caskets...did the parents get to see them before they were closed as is the usual case? Don't think so....
Patrick, when I went to open the second link, a warning from "cisco" came up saying it was a web threat. What's on there ?
ReplyDeleteDeterring traffic. Simple. Don't believe it.
ReplyDeleteThe only summation I can conclude Deb. These victims are still victimized. Where how and what for are still open. 911? I ponder their GPS location everyday.
ReplyDeleteGreetings of the seasons I express.
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ReplyDelete“Even the fact that the parents were only allowed to see photos of their children seem pretty odd.”~Craig McKee
More than odd, absolutely unprecedented in legal terms of body identification. This is one aspect of this case that I think needs to be highlighted and exposed as beyond all legal protocol. This sets an insidious precedent; that of the ‘state’ “owning” the body of a victim of a crime, rather than the relatives of the victim.
This is an aspect of instituting Full Spectrum Dominance, dead or alive you are the ‘property’ of the State.
I suggest that rather than all these personal subjective assumptions on who might shed tears in a TV interview; that we rather consider the implications of the revelations of Stanley Milgram’s work in, ‘Obedience to Authority’.
If an authority figure can manipulate the average person to electrocute someone, as some 65 percent of the subjects in his experiment, what is the mystery of the “authority figure” – in this case the television producers and agents, to manipulate the emotions of the subjects in these interviews?
I would submit that what we are witnessing here is this very same type of manipulation. It is grasping this type of manipulation by the ‘authority figure’ that would be more fruitful in our attempt to understand this event, and the ‘Presentation’ of the event by the Public Relations Regime.
The Darren Brown video "Making a MK Assassin" is a very important work.
I think we should also consider my suggestion that forms of hypnosis are at play with these interviews of the families and others in the Sandy Hook event.
It should be noted that the average Amerikan is already in a constant trance state. This has been explained adequately in the information of the psychological effects of watching TV.
These people become victims of both ‘obedience to authority’ and are subjected to powerful psychological manipulation, do to many aspects of the experience of being interviewed by the very medium they are already enchanted by: The setting, the bright lights, facing a camera, the cues and instructions given on how to act and what the agenda of the interview is meant to convey:
A 'Requiem Mass' for a loved one.
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Will the fact that the parents were not allowed to see and identify the dead children has been brought up and discussed here before. Honestly, I don't think you have really looked at this case and all the inconsistencies.
ReplyDeleteWhy do you think many of us don't believe those children died and were instead spirited away into the darkness(yea, that's when they "moved" the bodies) by the sick psychos that perpetrated this "event."? The parents being sequestered in their houses, guarded by cops, not allowed to speak to anyone or sneak out to find and identify their dead child add up to something is really not right here!
It's not just about the state taking control of their children. It's much more than that and much worse.
Also they first reported that Adam Lanza's body was finally picked up by some unidentified person. Now they are reporting it was his father.
WHAT WEAPON DID ADAM USE TO KILL HIMSELF? HAVE WE HEARD YET? ALSO, WHAT ABOUT THE MURDER WEAPON?
Yes I have looked at the case and all of its inconsistencies. That is why I determine that the inconsistencies are purposeful in creating a state of cognitive tension.
ReplyDeleteWhy do some of you believe that the children were not killed as reported? Because we don't KNOW either way. And THAT is part of the strategy of tension here.
Obviously none of this adds up - that is the point I am trying to make - it is NOT SUPPOSED TO ADD UP, and I think it is in grasping this that is the most important aspect of getting what is going on.
Rather than spin my wheels on what doesn't add up, I am seeing that it is part of the op, that this is the whole agenda, to flip us out and keep us chasing ghosts.
"I know the pieces fit..."~Tool
No the pieces DO NOT FIT...there are pop-beads all over the floor and they won't snap into one another to make a necklace...
You want a necklace? You're out of luck.
Rather than continue in these fruitless disagreements, lets look at what their agenda is achieving...fruitless disagreements. Yea? And so much more.
This idea that the State owns us dead and alive IS an important aspect of what this agenda is telling us. We also know that it is less a matter of making guns illegal than creating armed camps willing to kill each other. The proven result of this op is that more people have gone and cleaned the shelves of semi-automatic weapons and ammo as a reaction to this event. Do you actually believe that the PTB didn't anticipate and engineer these results? Because that doesn't add up either unless we see it as part of the design.
Frankly I see the majority of all this "Satanic Ritual" stuff as SPOOK THEATER: another strategy of tension, especially aimed at the hard core 'research community'.
This is my thinking, think of it as The Minority Report. I am not certain I am right in this, but I also know that certainty on any of this is misplaced as well.
In light of all this, I would posit that this Sandy Hook op is one of the most successful psychological operations they have staged. We have been spun backwards forwards sideways down.
Let us continue to search and continue to discuss this, but try to avoid getting hot under the collar at my dissident approach. Okay?
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As an added thought here;
ReplyDeleteThis SPOOK THEATER goes. This just might explain why Bain's book came out at the time it did__just prior to the Sandy Hook op.
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What is that syntax?
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The average person knows nothing of the elite and their Satanic rituals which requires the kidnapping and sacrificing of children. ALL they know is some crazy nut with a gun shot and murdered 26 kids and adults in a school.. THAT's the image they want people to have in their heads.
ReplyDeleteIt's about instilling the fear in every citizen of going anywhere without the militarized police and body scanners stationed at every school, mall and movie theater.
Will, you really should take the time to investigate the Satanic angle more. Did you ever read or watch the Discovery channel doc that was never aired about the Franklin scanal? Yes, the elite do perform Satanic rituals (Bohemian Grove and Skull and Bones are just boys having fun?..really?)and yes they are pedophiles and use children in those rituals. Sickening to read and or think about but true. AND as you know, such deviance is not new. It's been going on for centuries.
My theory is they took those children for such ritual. I even had a dream about it. I think the parents we saw on tv were part of it or forced into going along. The rest of the parents never came forward to speak to the press.
The story of Sandy Hook has already fallen off the msm radar. They executed their plan, took the children, got the desired effect they wanted.. parents fearing for their own children's lives and now they are done. We won't hear anymore info about the case. ALl those inconsistencies will fall down the memory hole along with all the inconsistencies in all their other false flags.
Well, if you had a dream about it, that cinches it, you are probably right about the whole thing.
ReplyDeleteI know that "Satanism" is an undercurrent in the elite playbook. And since you are right - the case is sealed up tight and the loose ends are sewed as tight as zombie lips; there will likely be no further info but the jumbled splatter scene painted in the TV audience's mass mind.
There have been moments when I wondered if Sandy Hook was a real town at all, that maybe it is a set made for the Batman movies...the school everything - just like that bin Laden compound on the military base built for practice runs...maybe the ONLY raids ever really run.
Maybe the moon is really made of butt-cheese???
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haha funny will . didn't say I was right. just expressing my opinion and theory based on the info or lack of and past false flag study.
ReplyDeleteLol, I am only being partially facetious here Deb.
ReplyDeleteI think that based on the almost complete lack of verifiable information on this incident that any theory is as good as another.
Like I said in another post, this seems to be one of the most successful psychological operations yet - simply undecipherable.
At this point the only thing verifiable is the agenda it was meant to put into motion - that is right in our face: Another step to Full Spectrum Dominance.
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Jon Rappoport on The Psychiatric Police State:
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Gradual steps eventually add up to a fully boiled frog.
In the “old psychiatry,” before smooth PR and modern marketing really took over, doctors were far more ready to make predictions about the future political ramifications of their work. Absolute madmen like Dr. Jose Delgado and Dr. Ewen Cameron went public with the idea that no human being has an inherent right to his own personality.
The true role of psychiatry, they asserted, was to re-invent human character, personality, behavior, and thought, from the ground up.
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This is all true about SSRI's. However, where is the proof that Adam Lanza was on those drugs? Where is the autopsy report? How do we know the person found in the school really was Adam in the first place?
ReplyDeleteHow do we know any shooter at all was found in the school? We've got no crime scene pictures at all. How is that possible? These are the questions that need to be answered which we know never will be.
Yep, that's the agenda, Will.,. Pisses me off that they use the "slaughter" of children to play on people's fears and emotions.
ReplyDeleteBut it's all over now because the msm is done with this bogus story.... ..next !!!
Yes, Ms. JerseyG, I agree. Satanic rituals and pedophilia is Explanation B, when Explanation A is full of holes. It is a common thread, a weak link, and most importantly an exploited weakness to keep others in line.
ReplyDeleteFar be it for me to prophesy, correctly no less.
The Helgian Dialectic is about thesis, anti-thesis, and synthesis. So the story of Sandy Hook and the emotion it evokes are the thesis. The knee-jerk anti-gun legislation appears to be the anti-thesis. What might the true synthesis be?
Maybe the powers-that-be (PTB) really want us turned into a state of heavily armed 2nd Amendment Defenders, each with our stash of weapons and ammunition, as well as drugs to maintain our mental well-being. Rather than killing us by poisoning our food supply or infecting us with disease (via chemtrails), they want us amped up like a powder-keg so that all it takes is some HAARP-induced natural disaster to have us turn on each other and effectively cull our infectious herd ourselves via hot-lead-poisoning and reduce our over-populated planet into numbers more in line with the "Georgia Guidestone."
The Jon Rappoport piece adds another dimension of "mental health screening" and association with pychiatrists as being gating ones.
Of course, there is a radical turn to all this bat-shit crazy speculation that I don't even fully believe, not for lack of desire but for lack of convincing overwhelming evidence. It has to do with the alien agenda. In one version grossly misinterpretted by me, there be good aliens, and there be bad aliens. The bad aliens have been here (under us) pulling strings, directing human efforts (often against the best long-term interests of our peoples), the devil's bargin in the selling of souls for fame and fortune to keep the masses duped, and blue-bloods and blood-lines being the prospering on-the-surface representatives. The good aliens, who quarantined the bad aliens here, are coming for a visit. However, due to the preconditioning of film and television, we'll be pre-disposed to exercise our 2nd Amendment Rights by blowing them damn UFO-aliens to bits on sight, as if they were the zombies in the apocolypse or Call to Arms. Some worsely duped than I have speculated that the development of massive arsenals of nuclear weapons that could destroy all of mankind many times over was never for geo-political gains along faux global-political lines, but for the alien agenda. Instead of assisting with our rescue from the ill-meaning PTB, we'll demonstrate our football-nation trained-mentality to be a trigger-happy vigillantes for Christ, planet Earth, and the human race.
I do not have any vested interest in defending the above unsubstantiated wild-ass, bat-shit crazy, unfounded speculation. Just throwing it out there, because of them thare damn naggit nuggets of truth that must somehow exist in the UFO and alien folklore.
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Deb,
ReplyDeleteRappoport isn't saying that Lanza was amped up on drugs or that he was the shooter - all he is reporting is that the psychiatric issue is now on a front burner and the dangers that that auger.
I think we are all in pretty much agreement that there are no answers but a load of media spin here on Sandy Hook. And as I have been saying the confusion is the goal.
I think we should all remain level headed. Such as understanding the distinctions of what Rappoport is saying in his newest article, and how that doesn't mean he is claiming Lansa was on these drugs or that he was a shooter.
We are free here now to make up ANY theory we wish as to what went down at that elementary school...anything at all, because they have spun it to fine particulates on the maimstream media...and as I keep saying THAT was the agenda, to leave this issue completely open to any interpretation, the crazier the better for the needs of those running this strategy of tension.
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Actually WIll, I think he is. He's on Alex Jones right now with Mike Adams and so far it sounds to me like, along with Alex Jones and Mike Adams, that's the line they are going with. That mentally deranged Adam was on SSRI drugs. Which means they are implying he is the shooter. It's their whole spiel as far as Sandy Hook goes. Oh wait, now they are saying Adama Lanza was a devil worshipper..what?
ReplyDeleteThe best I've heard on Sandy Hook so far is from Gordon Duff. He says it was a foreign intelligence op *(read Israel) and that there is evidence of that.
If that's the case, no wonder Jones is leaving that particular evidence alone. Not sure where Rappapport stands when it
comes to the zionists. I've not seen anything he posted on that subject.
Anyone? Makes me wonder. Could be why he's pushing Adam as the shooter on drugs. I could be wrong.. if I am, someone please link me to an article by Jon that blames anything on Israel. I know you can't when it comes to AJ.
Wow, that interview made me lose the respect I had for Rappaport.
Hey Senor.. I don't EVER count out the alien agenda ;)
ReplyDeleteI have read enough of Rappoport's articles on Sandy Hook to conclude that he is essentially about where we are at...in that the media has spun the story so hard that it flung everything all over the place - they in fact created the perfect medium for a penumbra of conspiracy theories. No not among the TVZombies, but for the critical thinkers. Like the MSM the zombies are off to the newest TV doodad.
ReplyDeleteSo this event had two targets:
1] The average ditz TV watcher who just went with the flow and accepted the 'bottom line'
2] The critical internet community.
There would then reasonably be the agenteur that would also be involve with pumping the plots aimed at the second target.
So it is not that the TV viewer has any cognizance of "Satanism" in America. That whole line would be pumped up here on the Internet. This isn't to deny that there is such Satanism extant to some degree. But it is to say it is tenuous, relying on a few examples of imagery and a large amount of presumption.
Now we could move onto an even stranger scenario than has thus been put forward; the Alien Agenda. It is possible that all these kids were beamed up to a spaceship. Can we with any certainty rule this out? We don't know this isn't true any more that anything else.
I might present this as a possibility, but I am not serious in considering it personally.
I am more interested in what we do know - and that is mostly the activities of the MSM and police in all of this. I think it is obvious that the story was told in such a way that it didn't add up and that this was by design. This is a provocation of the critical Internet camp. This is something we should give great consideration to.
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My problem with Rappoport is that he seems to believe, from what I heard today on live radio and his latest articles, that a drugged up Adam Lanza committed the crime. There is absolutely no evidence to support that. In fact, all evidence points to the fact he would be unable to perform such an act on his own.
ReplyDeleteSo I have a problem with Rappoport and think he has another agenda as he keeps pushing that particular theory.
Well if that is what he said on the radio today then I can't argue with that, and I agree that there is no basis whatsoever to conclude that Adam Lanza was anything other than a patsy.
ReplyDeleteI think Rappoprt does have an agenda, and that is to get rid of these psychoactive drugs. But it is poor form to add Lanza into the fold on zero evidence.
I think we should keep this in mind moving forward. Those who are more concerned with their particular agendas than with precise truth for every particular should be held to account, or at least pointed out among ourselves.
At any rate, regardless of Rappoport, my analysis of what should be taken from this event stands:
This PSYOP had two targets:
1] The average ditz TV watcher who just went with the flow and accepted the ‘bottom line’
2] The critical internet community.
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I just left this comment on the Rappoport blog at the URL below.
ReplyDeleteLet us see if he responds or even publishes the question:
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Mr Pappoport,
One of my group of analysts listened to the show with Alex Jones, yourself and the Health Ranger today.
She reported that you were of the opinion that Adam Lanza was indeed the shooter at the Sandy Hooks event.
If this is indeed what you now think, on what basis to you come to this conclusion?
Thanks, Will Whitten
http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2013/01/06/after-sandy-hook-how-psychiatrists-will-become-policemen/
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"Maybe the powers-that-be (PTB) really want us turned into a state of heavily armed 2nd Amendment Defenders, each with our stash of weapons and ammunition, as well as drugs to maintain our mental well-being."~ //
ReplyDeleteMax, this has been a working hypothesis of mine for some time now, given the fact that with every one of these well publicized events the Amerikan people rush out to buy more weapons and ammunition.
This cannot be missed by the establishment. I think this is expected by them and is indeed part of their design.
This is one of the reasons I think that they are indeed out to stoke a civil war leading to the eventual Balkanization of the US, to fit it into the regional template of the New World Order.
It will likely be the projected financial crash that will be the flash-point to this conflagration. Tic Tic Tic...
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"I am having other thoughts regarding the Parker family. I have now seen two instances of family photos that appear tainted. In one photo (family in white shirts), Emily appears to be photoshopped in."~//
ReplyDeleteI will disregard the rest of your squabble and point out that I have addressed this latest analysis here. I won't repeat it here.
If you want to address it here after reading my commentary on
T&S, you are welcome to do so.
Or you can address it there, it's up to you.
http://truthandshadows.wordpress.com/2012/12/31/multiple-suspects-a-profusion-of-weapons-and-arrests-suppressed-in-sandy-hook-shooting-story/
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Mr Bridges,
ReplyDeleteIf you are going to come on and schmooze your way into these conversations you are free to do so.
I will dialog with you only so long as you refrain from posting buckets of slop here as far as your characterizations of my own assessments of so many things past.
As far as I am concerned you are the cops. I don't know what your purpose here is exactly and I don't care. If COTO in particular is your new assignment, then that will reveal itself in time.
In the meantime, don't fuck with me.
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Who the hell is Mr Bridges?
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ReplyDeleteMaxwell Bridges aka Señor El Once, an anonymous person of unknown persuasion.
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Dear Ms. JerseyG,
ReplyDeleteMr. Rogue confuses the COTO forum by not addressing me as my posting alias, "Señor El Once."
I found that an attack venue on the anomymous internet is to bring up "real name" arguments, as in, "your points are invalid because you didn't post it using your real name. Who the fuck are you?" Facebook is a big one in this fight, always wanting real names on facebook accounts.
Of course, this alias-ASSociation tries to frame the discussion away from the fact that a consistently used alias that stands behind the words of that alias (with blogs and websites) can be just as good as a "real name" only without the immediate baggage and danger to a real person or their family that Google will inflict (in the next job search). Been there, done that.
Google "Señor El Once" and you'll discover why Mr. Rogue tries to use another name in reference to me.
Dear Mr. Rogue,
I will entertain briefly your contention that I am the cops. Seems to me that for a "cop" of my writing talent, my active-duty playing fields and my posting frequency are rather lame, thin, and weak. Such a complete waste of my literary talents! What are they paying me for?
Even the topics that I write about are rather limited (e.g., mostly neu nookiedoo), but not in a "OneBornFree" or "A.Wright" sort of a stilted way, because I do consider new evidence and I do change my mind when warranted and I do reach in to spare those nuggets of truth from being tossed away. And I have a much better grasp of math and physics than they (or you) do.
You, on the other hand, are acting rather... "guilty." I mean, for a man of your posting skills, you always seem to get skittish when around me, calling me names, demanding my banishment, etc.
You give the distinct impression that the points you make do not stand up to my scrutiny, my research, my analysis, my postings, so 'tis better to side-line your online nemesis early with your theatrics and games [rather than simply ignoring me.]
Let's continue for another moment this premise that I am the cops. Just like when I experienced them in other venues, I found they added value to a certain extent. Of course, the limit of that extent would be reached when they attempted games (e.g., flame wars, malframing, strawmen, alias-ASSociating, recycled non-sense, inability to acknowledge points.) Still, their stilted argumentation -- owing to the agenda they pushed -- was always something that could be "built upon", a defect to be exploited. I used to call it "semaphores for 9/11 truth" in that their wave-off's of something meant just the opposite.
At any rate, if I am the cops or an agent or other type of infiltrator, it is not necessarily a bad thing, if done respectfully. It provides a different perspective that -- if cop oriented -- ought to be easy to defeat in a rational discussion, making the lurker readers better for having read the debate.
Of course, I deny the cops association. But if you persist with your copper game, (a) you'll have to provide lots of specifics and (b) you'll have to avoid the cop-traits listed for me coming back around and being a better reflection of you.
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Ahhh ok... thanks Will.. I hadn't noticed that.
ReplyDeleteYou didn't notice, because Mr. Rogue is lying. I do not sign my postings as such HERE.
ReplyDeleteMr. Rogue is trying to play an alias-ASSociation game, because he knows it touches a nerve. He knows that if he can break my weak internet barriers (or get others to do his dirty work), it might very well cause real, personal damage.
Immorality is a sign of an agent, I've learned the hard way. They will out you publicly if given a chance, then associate all sorts of lies and smears with the outed name, mostly for the "google-background-check" effects.
So let's not go there anymore. When appropriate, I share my particulars and validate my concerns.
let me get this strait Bridges, you are saying that you do not sign your posts with the double slash here, when it is obvious from the posts above that you do indeed end with, // , January 7, 2013
ReplyDeleteat 11:00 am - and on January 7, 2013 at 5:14 pm.
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"Mr. Rogue confuses the COTO forum by not addressing me as my posting alias, “Señor El Once.”~Bridges
ReplyDeleteNo Bridges, I am not confusing anybody, I am making something clear.
Blab on, you have already revealed your agenda, as from the beginning when we first started sparring on Truth and Shadows, just about a year ago now you have been attempting to frame me as an agent for the state, continuing with your bullshit trip about A Wright, which is what originally brought you here. As I was talking about what utter bullshit you were aiming at me as per this 'puppeteering' slur.
You have in fact already touched on it in this very thread.
I call this blatant projection, for I say you are indeed the cop. I say that your agenda here is nothing else than what has begun here on this thread.
I won't deal with your mischaracterizations of myself Bridges. I will only point out that this seems to be your new assignment, to pull me into another series of Señor El Booboo Lunatic Carousel rides.
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You forgot your - // - Bridges, which you were posting until this little spat began.
ReplyDeleteWhy did you suddenly drop your slashes Maxipad?
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Thanks Senor. I was thinking my eyesight OR my mind is weaker than I thought....
ReplyDeleteDid you get an answer yet? There is no doubt from his writings or the radio show that he's pushing Lanza as the drug addled shooter....
ReplyDeleteI hate big Pharma with a passion but they ain't got nothin' to do with this shooting or aurora....
"Mr. Rogue is trying to play an alias-ASSociation game, because he knows it touches a nerve. He knows that if he can break my weak internet barriers (or get others to do his dirty work), it might very well cause real, personal damage."~Bridges
ReplyDeleteWTF? I don't give a rats ass what your real name is. I am just reading your MO and saying it as I see it.
This attempt at staying anonymous on the Internet is futile bullshit, the parties that matter, the corporatists both in and out of "governent" already know who everybody is__don't kid yourself.
And to say that you personally have any more to fear from being "out" on the Internet, as I am as anyone paying attention knows I reveal my real name on quite a few occasions...we are all liable for our words here and they are surely on file at the proper terminals.
You are play acting at being paranoid - you are all one slick act Bridges. This took time to sort out, but I am convinced of it now.
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The slashes are on these posts, are you reading with your glasses Deb?
ReplyDeleteThis thread:
January 7, 2013 at 11:00 am – and on January 7, 2013 at 5:14 pm.
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I wasn't looking for slashes WIll. I was looking for the signature Maxwell Bridges. What's the big deal about slashes? You two bicker like old men on a park bench!
ReplyDeleteDedicated to Will and Senor :D
ReplyDeletehttp://youtu.be/Ul2hSba5pOs
No, I don't even know if my question is off of moderation yet.
ReplyDeleteSomehow I get the feeling there will be no answer, even if he posts the question...but we'll see. I'd give it at least a day he is slow with moderating.
As per Bridges, I said, and I paste from where I said:
> 'He signs his posts, //'
I went on to give his two aliases. I did not say nor infer that he signed is posts here as Bridges.
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Let's drop it Bridges, let it lay.
ReplyDeleteI don't want any more of this carousel ride.
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Nice song, but I think that 'Kodachrome’ would be more appropriate in this instance Deb.
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Nah, this song was perfect and btw one of my favorite S&G tunes. You two make me laugh with your overly verbose rebuttals to each other ;)
ReplyDeleteHey Will; Maxipad just doesn't have it figured yet do he, You just don't like him period. Nothing's ever going to change that no matter how he tries. That's what happens when one's overplayed their hand. I've been computer gimped again but am back up and at it. I didn't pay much attention to this post , looks like I missed out on some fun
ReplyDeleteMr. Rogue noted:
ReplyDelete"He signs his posts, // [...] Señor El Once, an anonymous person of unknown persuasion. ... You forgot your – // – [Señor El Once], which you were posting until this little spat began. Why did you suddenly drop your slashes [Señor El Once]?"
Actually, I sign my posts "Señor El Once" with a date and time stamp. When I remember that "Señor El Once" is akin to "Señor El Zorro" with his sword-slashing Z's, I add a slash-slash "//" for entertainment value. But only when I remember.
Of course, the // is a weasel-move for Mr. Rogue in the alias-ASS-ociating name dropping games he plays.
Let's do the recent numbers [from "The Sandy Hook Massacre"]:
++ hybridrogue1 on January 7, 2013 at 6:01 pm
++ hybridrogue1 on January 7, 2013 at 7:06 pm
++ Señor El Once on January 7, 2013 at 7:11 pm
++ Señor El Once on January 7, 2013 at 7:24 pm
++ Señor El Once on January 7, 2013 at 7:31 pm
++ hybridrogue1 on January 7, 2013 at 7:45 pm
++ hybridrogue1 on January 7, 2013 at 7:53 pm
++ hybridrogue1 on January 7, 2013 at 7:58 pm
++ hybridrogue1 on January 7, 2013 at 8:30 pm
++ hybridrogue1 on January 7, 2013 at 8:36 pm
++ hybridrogue1 on January 7, 2013 at 9:10 pm
++ hybridrogue1 on January 7, 2013 at 9:43 pm
I wrote to Mr. Rogue in the 7:11 pm posting:
"... if you persist with your copper game, (a) you’ll have to provide lots of specifics and (b) you’ll have to avoid the cop-traits listed for me coming back around and being a better reflection of you."
Of course, after dropping his load of sequential sharts, he flicks his Bic at his behind and explodes with:
"Let’s drop it [Señor El Once], let it lay. I don’t want any more of this carousel ride."
Wise decision, although the air is still aglow with his inner essence, not just here but in his faux debates with OneBornFree and A.Wright on Truth & Shadows [1] and [2]. Neither of those opponents provides much substance, so Mr. Rogue feels obligated to engage them with a flaming tizzy carousel ride of his own anyway again & again.
P.S. To Mr. Veritable1:
Please go re-read the rules of engagement on this forum specifically as they pertain to personal attacks. It would be a pity to see you (and Mr. Rogue) bumped from your home court on an insulting technicality.
Yep, "That’s what happens when one’s overplayed their hand."
Not to worry. The time suck of the COTO forum may not appear on my unfinished resolutions for the new year going forward. The kicker is probably Mr. Veritable1's wise words:
"Nothing’s ever going to change that no matter how he tries."
Exactly.
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But, you're such an easy target, andI calls em as I see's em. I'm just wondering, don't you have somewhere else to go to annoy people or is this a broad spectrum thing. I doubt the rules apply upon telling someone, you just don't like them.
ReplyDeleteMy very last post here I said:
ReplyDelete>'Let’s drop it Bridges, let it lay.
I don’t want any more of this carousel ride.'
And what is your response Mr slash slash Zorro? Another load of sludge and accusations that my postings to counter the shills on Truth and Shadows is disingenuous.
I do not welcome your presence here and the above diatribe is a perfect illustration of why. I do not need to go through a point by point rebuttal with you on any of this. I have come to the determination that your agenda is and always has been to frame me, either as an agent or as someone who is not rational. I consider this type of agenda to be the job of a cop. So I say I think you are a cop. I say that your continued postings to this affect are further proofs.
I did not challenge you in my first comment on your comment to JG.
It wasn't until your post of on January 7, 2013 at 5:14 pm, wherein you had to go into your little "tangent", which is a continuation of the same old song and dance you spit at me time after time.
I am fed up with your crap Mr Maxwell Bridges aka The Mask of Zorro, or whatever your fantasy of the day is.
If you persist in hanging around here don't be surprised if I don't receive you well. I consider you a trolling cop.
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So, what do we get from this guy? Just like the cop I suspect he is he threatens the both of us. He "just might" try to get us bumped off of our own site on a "technicality".
ReplyDeleteI should say that he might have well have flashed his badge.
So watch that Anglo-Saxon Veri:
BIG DADDY IS WATCHING YOU
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Hey PD is the sheriff here.. no one is getting arrested by anyone but him!
ReplyDeleteThanks for saying that JG, I'll try to not call El//zero here too many bad names.
ReplyDeleteDoes that mean I can't call him EL// MuMuMu/axiPuPuPu. Ah you get the picture. Call the cops on me el// AD.
ReplyDeletelol...veri... u guys really do crack me up with your antics :D
ReplyDeleteThis is a comment I made on November 29, 2012 at 1:50 pm
ReplyDeleteon my post:
http://cotocrew.wordpress.com/2012/11/28/prologue-new-wave-911/
This is not the first time I explained this to Bridges, I had made it clear long before he became a "regular" here, I said:
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I am going to explain to Mr Bridges one last time why he is not welcome on these pages.
It has nothing to do with his nookeedoodoo argument. It has nothing to do with “fear” in “debating” him. We have “debated” in circles for month upon month on these issues.
My issue with Bridges is [1] that he feels he can chase me around the web, and FORCE a debate on me, [2] that he has and continues to try to frame me as an agent for the system, [3] and most distressing, he attempted with scanty and delusional “evidence” to frame me as puppeting another gravitar on Truth and Shadows.
Therefore, Mr Bridges is not someone I wish to know or have conversations with on any subject whatsoever – and he is certainly not someone I need advice from.
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Obviously this still hasn't sunk in, as he continues to contest me for not debating these issues with him.
No I do not like this provocateur who calls himself Bridges and plays at Zorro. I feel I have valid reasons for not liking him and for suspecting him of having a covert agenda here.
I asked that he drop it, he instead blasts another load of horseshit. Well that is it. No I'm not going to drop back and be silent in his obnoxious presence.
I will remind him every time he crosses my path that I consider him a troll and a cop.
I advise that he buzz off.
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Will, if you don't want to debate him... ignore him. It works like a charm. Back in the old days of yahoo chat we actually had ignore buttons. If you didn't like someone you could hit that button and you couldn't see their comments and they couldn't contact you. I never used it though. I just ignored them manually :)
ReplyDeleteThanks for the advice Deb, I'll play it my way.
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No worries Will. I get it. You like having a nemesis to argue with. Don't ignore him. That would ruin all the fun.
ReplyDeleteThat isn't really it at all Deb. I have no intent of arguing with Maxipunk. That is what I explained here time and again.
ReplyDeleteI am merely pointing out that he has an agenda, and I am going to keep that on the front burner any time he bounces in on our turf.
I would rather he simply keep his ass out of here.
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ok will:)
ReplyDeletehttp://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=jones+v+morgan+video+debate&mid=96C4BCF790200E386D4E96C4BCF790200E386D4E&view=detail&FORM=VIRE2
ReplyDeleteI just saw Alex Jones v Piers Morgan on the debate on CNN - I don't care what anyone else thinks, I think his performance was just what was needed.
No pussyfooting with these prissy clowns.
I don't agree with Alex every time he shouts over someone, but it was appropriate this time. I think his bringing up 9/11 was good as well.
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I don't deal with cops Bridges...I had thought of joining the OSS - Adam Ruff boycott of T&S if McKee doesn't do something about OBF.
ReplyDeleteBut with your "offer" above, the last thing I do will be to stop posting there.
This drivel about 'ad hominem' is squatdiddle Maxipad, an as hominem is technically only so as use in flawed argumentation. It is NOT ad hominem to simply ridicule or make fun of someone. There are cases when ridicule is the only proper response, such as in the case of dealing with anonymous trolls who pretend they can act like the cops but not be called out as cops.
Take a fucking hike, it would probably do your system some good to "get some"...
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Nice try going after my masculinity El//nob. Reads to me, that's your issue. You're not the first invertebrate(no spine) to come here and provide some entertainment for the readership. You and yours are so much fun, good fodder for some great one liners. Hey Willy, we missed our mark, we should have been comedy writers.
ReplyDeleteFor cryin' out loud, did I go back in time while sleeping and wake up in high school again?
ReplyDeleteWhere's the reset button?
"This ain't no party this ain't no disco this ain't no foolin' around"
ReplyDeleteI warned you that this guy was a snake. He is setting up COTO right now, can't you see that?
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I was thinking grade 3 JG with the class snitch taking on the bad ass's at the back of the class. A silly person that needs to run along and find their own sandbox, hopefully with cat turd in it.
ReplyDeleteMaxine now addresses me as, "Dearest Mr. Rogue" like some prissy nanny.
ReplyDeleteMiss Prim and Proper is so embarrassed by the Anglo-Saxon...what a bullshit phony act this all is.
I happen to appreciate the Anglo-Saxon, and I have addressed the intellectual, historical and psychological reasons for this before.
As I said, every time you are rebuked for using the word "fuck" you are kneeling to the Roman rules put upon the British Isles back during the Ancient Roman Empire. That these are "nasty words" is a result of indoctrination under tyrannical rule - that the culture STILL submits to unconsciously some 3000 years later. This attitude is that of a slave, I will not take on the attitude of a slave.
Now, I have been using this language freely here because it is presumed to be an adult site conversing about dire matters. I have also been calling Max a punk and an asshole, long before he joined this site. That is part of what drew him over here. If he didn't want to be addressed in any offensive manners he obviously came to the wrong place. He knew what the deal is here before he arrived. If he doesn't like it, he can change the channel.
If he came here to "teach me a lesson", I consider that stalking and arrogant badgering on his part. In the Anglo-Saxon...or modern street language, I would call this guy a prick. Those who are arrogant are generally prickly jab. a "prick" can be the resulting wound of such a jab, and can be referred to as the tool to make such a wound.
It is claimed that I "resort" to such language from a purely emotional base. This is not true, I think the language is superbly expressive and makes the 'point' much sharper. I don't need flowery escorts and babydumper temperaments to give me advice or scold me. If "Dear Mr. Bridges" doesn't like the heat, he should get the fuck out of the kitchen.
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I'm not seeing that Mr Bridges doesn't like the heat anymore than I'm seeing from you that you really want him to leave. IF you did, you'd stop calling him names and totally IGNORE him. Instead you continue to throw more gasoline on the fire.
ReplyDeleteHow about we end all this crap right now, shall we? Let's get back to discussing issues and stop the childish back and forth. Is that possible?
We'll see what is possible as things proceed here Deb.
ReplyDeleteI'll ignore him when he stops addressing me and my "needed improvements".
I would rather ignore him because there is nothing there to ignore.
If you think this is a "childish" game you are wrong, I want this punk out of my face.
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"I read we lost credibility here."~Veri
ReplyDeleteWe lost credibility with who? How much credibility did we ever have with this 'who' in the first place?
I think the whole "credibility" game is horseshit. Who do we want to appear to be 'credible' too? Brainfried TVZombies that can't walk a straight line without Muzak and place marks?
These automaton's eyes roll back in their head at the mention of any real truth.
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Veri, I totally agree. CNN and Piers Moron had their way with him and we all took the hit. Because now every one who questions 9/11, or the police state or the gun grabbing of the fascists, will be painted in Alex Jones' psychedelic lunatic fringe colors and I for one am not happy about that. So many people have been just waking up, not fully so, just stirring and fence sitting. Well Alex and his big mouth blew them right off the fence and into MSM's waiting lap.
ReplyDeleteHe did not speak coherently... he raved like a mad man. I don't understand how anyone in our movement could think his performance helped our cause.
I think that may have been his purpose all along.
When I watched it, I thought he blew it, I can't stand Alex Jones. His minions on his site are currently crowing about how he stood up to Piers Morgan like he did something heroic when in fact he was nothing more than a cymbal clanging toy monkey. As far as our credibility goes, it's been my view that we were starting to gain a foothold in the fact that we were presenting some cold hard facts and common sense questions to those that have been having doubts and were searching for truth. What little we've gained, we've lost some of from his lunatic rant.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure many here have seen this but I'll put it up anyhow. You may have to search around a bit to get a view that doesn't have the pauses that the youtube presentation has.
http://youtu.be/dy43UEaIWXE
I still don't think it's going to amount to a hill of beans. This deal with Alex Jones isn't going to have any repercussions at all, the agenda is set, the people are fragmented and the shit is going to hit the fan before any grand awakening takes place.
ReplyDeleteYup, just my opinion...here's the salt shaker.
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The average TVZombie is programmed to have two simple emotional modes:
ReplyDelete1] Sedated Somnambulism
2] Shocked Hysteria
And they have no idea of what cues these reactions nor a memory of one incident past another. They are a lost cause for the most part. Those who haven't gotten it yet have a very short time to get it - and by far the vast majority aren't even close to getting it.
They are going to be blindsided and unplugged and they will dry up quickly and fade out like a screen going dead.
Cynical no doubt, but a realistic assessment from my perspective.
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And here we are cast onto the stage in the prescience of WTF. The question to be asked, a curse or a blessing? Kind of leaves this grungy feeling in the pit of the gut don't it.
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ReplyDeleteWal-Mart to attend gun control meeting at White House
By Emily Jane Fox @CNNMoney January 9, 2013: 12:03 PM ET
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Wal-Mart, along with the National Rifle Association, will participate in a meeting with Vice President Joseph Biden's gun violence task force this week.
NEW YORK (CNNMoney)
After initially declining an invitation to attend, Wal-Mart announced Wednesday that it will participate in a meeting with Vice President Joseph Biden's gun violence task force.
The nation's largest retailer, whose representatives had spoken with the vice president's staff earlier this week on the issue, originally said that executives couldn't attend Biden's meeting Thursday because they were obligated to be at monthly sales meetings at its headquarters in Bentonville, Ark.
The decision was widely scrutinized, with many questioning how Wal-Mart (WMT, Fortune 500)could be a part of the discussion without listening to what other parties were saying at the White House.
In response to the criticism, Wal-Mart said it would attend.
"We underestimated the expectation to attend the meeting on Thursday in person, so we are sending an appropriate representative to participate," said Wal-Mart spokesman David Tovar.
Tovar said that Wal-Mart has been "very purposeful" about striking the right balance between serving hunters and sportsman and ensuring that it sells firearms responsibly. He also said the retailer is committed to staying engaged in the discussion about the right path forward with lawmakers.
Wal-Mart sells guns in roughly 1,800 of its 4,000 stores, according to Tovar. It sells semiautomatic assault rifles, like the ones used in Sandy Hook, in about 1,200 stores across the country.
Related: NRA will participate in White House gun violence meetings
Just days after a gunman killed 20 school children and six teachers in Newtown, Conn., President Obama tapped Biden to lead a panel that will provide recommendations to prevent another mass shooting.
A senior administration official said Tuesday that Biden would hold meetings this week with victims' advocacy groups and gun safety organizations, as well as with groups representing gun owners. The official added the vice president would meet with representatives of the entertainment and video game industries.
Both the National Rifle Association and the National Shooting Sports Foundation will participate in the meetings, which are slated for Wednesday and Thursday.
The meetings are expected to result in recommendations that will be presented to Obama to inform which proposal he backs, the official said.
The AGENDA flies forward at supersonic speed now...
ReplyDeleteAll based on a most ludicrous and blatantly false story...
Amerikan Lemmings...
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