Saturday, October 20, 2012

September Morn - a film set for theatrical release questioning the "offiicial" story of 9/11



"We the people demand that the government revisit and initiates a thorough and independent investigation to the tragic events of 911."




FLEUR DE LIS FILM STUDIOS PRESENTS A BJ DAVIS FILM "SEPTEMBER MORN"
WOODY HARRELSON ED ASNER MARTIN SHEEN ESAI MORALES JOHN HEARD DANIEL SUNJATA VALERIE HARPER NICK MANCUSO JOSEPH CULP JUDD NELSON DICK GREGORY MICHELLE PHILLIPS

From The Guardian:  "Details of the film, which is to be directed by BJ Davis and written by Howard Cohen, are expected to be revealed at an American Film Market conference in Los Angeles next week, Deadline.com reported."     Oddly enough,(or not) if you click on the deadline link, it will tell you  "Sorry, no posts matched your criteria".  ~jg

"The production has been set up by Fleur de Lis Film Studios, which has also made the documentary A Noble Lie, about the Oklahoma City bombing, and Operation: Dark Heart, a feature based on an intelligence agent's memoirs."  (Definitely good creds)
Not much info out there about this film... from IMDB

Of course, mainstream media is reporting on it, in what could only be called a snickeringly, derogatory way.  Don't read those comments at the AOL owned Huffpo, unless you want to be pissed off.

A more neutral view form Yahoo Movies UK

Last but not least, from The Intel Hub, a biased view but one I adhere to.


There is no trailer available and their webpage contains only the movie poster.


Any bets on whether or not this movie ever hits the theaters?


*Wherever this movie lands, I want to express my sincere gratitude to the actors, producer and director that have bravely come forward to ask the questions and be involved in the making of this film.~jg

114 comments:

  1. It'll definitely be shown in the rest of the world. I watched a good Documentary here put out by Canadian Broadcasting Corporation called "Angry In America" this week past. That although wasn't any surprise to me was quite illuminating in the fact it was shown on MSM. Things are brewing in the US and the lid's about to be blown off the top off the pot soon.

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  2. I heard about the film - not titled then - on Truth and Shadows, a few months ago...
    The writer chosen even commented on the thread, and had been interviewed by McKee.

    I hope they film all of Asner's scenes first...he is getting real old...hope he lasts through filming.

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  3. Thanks for the scoop on this Deb.

    I wonder if it will be shown in Amerika__or if we'll all have to watch it on DVD, like most of the films that have any truth to them?

    I can just hear the PANs crashing on MSM now...a thousand thumbs down from all the TV film critics.

    If it IS shown in a theatrical release - whattaya want to bet there are huge protests organized by the goonland security state? Depends on the virility of the situation...IF enough Amerikans are interested in buying tickets, etc..

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  4. You're right about that V. The rest of the world already knows 9/11 is an inside job. It's the brain dead sheeple of Amerika that haven't gotten the memo yet. What was the gist of Angry in America? Wonder if it will show up on youtube.

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  5. The first I heard of it was today, Will. It could be coming out anytime after next week. In the U.S...probably on dvd would be my guess.

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  6. Will, as I said in my post, if you go read the comments after any of the articles about the movie that I posted, your faith in Amurkicans would not be restored...........

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  7. The gist was about the movements from Tea party to OWS to the Protests in Wisconsin and Walkers move to trash the unions. It's about the growing discontentment in the general population and talks about Wall St. and the bailouts and the take over of government by the corporatocracy although it doesn't identify it in that fashion. I'll see if I can find some links and give reply to you.

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  8. I just downloaded it, it's a 2 part one with the first part presented on this past Thursday the next part next Thursday.
    www.cbc.ca/doczone

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  9. I don't know what the percentage is calculated in your country that 9/11 was a false flag but here in the land of igloo's mukluks and snow shoes fully 1/3 of the population believes it to be. I would imagine that the fence sitters would be about the same. It was also covered on Doczone some time ago and presented in a manner that I'm sure many readers here would not be disappointed in. The rest of the world is waiting for the American people to get with it, then we can do something about it.

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  10. Thanks for the link V. I was all set to watch and when I clicked the arrow, I get a voice that says.. "this content is currently unavailable." Would be creepy if only Americans got that message, wouldnt it?

    See what you get?

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  11. Btw, anybody notice the chemtrails in the poster?

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  12. I pressed the link and it came right up. Could be, it's disallowed cross border. Some things from the US are here also but nothing of a political nature, they'd rather the whole planet buy into their bullshit anyhow. I understand in the US, R/T is disallowed also. Now that would be a bummer considering communism was generated out of Wall St.

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  13. I was afraid of that V. Just tried again to be sure.. same msg. Censorship? In America? nah... say it ain't so :D

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  14. Did you post the one by Deb? {Yahoo}

    Sure has your feel to it.

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  15. CONTROLLED DEMOLITION
    OF BUILDING WTC6

    The sound track to that video that they played on that radio debate between Dave Thomas and Richard Gage has been playing in the background in my head. It just hit me what it is!

    Indication of audio attenuation is on the very video used to show and prove there were no sounds of explosions during the collapse. However there is jiggle noise and a fragment of voice at the very beginning of the movement of the building, and then again at the climax the jiggle noise and a voice. What is in between is TAPE HISS. Depending on EQ settings, this his could be boosted in the mid-range and bass to make the sound more like a subtle roar, rather like falling sand – which is now I would describe the audio on this video.

    A digital paradigm shift later, people forget or younger ones have never heard tape his. All of the videos are taken with analog recorders on 9/11. Transfer to digital happened during video feeds to stations. Private videos would have been transferred to digital on computer or pro transfer labs.

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  16. If there is a picture of a black & white dog avatar...yea, that would be me..lol

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  17. Ahhhh tape hiss... I remember it well.

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  18. Woops! Above I meant;

    CONTROLLED DEMOLITION OF BUILDING WTC 7

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  19. Did you listen to that interview with Gage and Thomas?

    I wish you would and verify whether you agree that is what it is.

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  20. http://www.wmnf.org/news_stories/911-debate-do-we-know-the-truth

    - Dave Thomas v Richard Gage on WTC 9/11

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  21. Not yet Will. How long is the interview? I'll try to check it out tonight.

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  22. It is just audio so not much bandwidth,,,seems like about half an hour.

    The commercials have been cut out thank Bob!

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  23. Call my cynical but I think the truth re 9/11 doesn't really matter at this juncture...those that did the deed have presumably moved on with their plans (just look at how the world has changed since that day…).

    I can see how the truth re 9/11 or some version of it coming out would be of benefit to those wishing to end the American dream (however one chooses to define it) though. Imagine the shock & awe if talking heads on every channel started speaking the truth…Kind of like a psychopathically driven apocalypse…

    As I said…call me cynical ;-) …


    Off topic but these words have been resonating with me as of late…

    "
    And the people bowed and prayed
    To the neon god they made
    And the sign flashed out its warning
    In the words that it was forming
    And the sign said "The words of the prophets are written on the subway walls
    And tenement halls
    And whispered in the sound of silence"

    We've accepted as normal that which we ought not for a long while now...There are disgusting vile 'people' in positions of power all through out this beautiful world.

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  24. Just get it up and let the light shine in !! The more out there contending the obvious fact of demolition/false flag, the better. It is a ratio of thought thing.
    And a presentation of this quality must alter the balance toward truth .

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  25. "Call my cynical but I think the truth re 9/11 doesn’t really matter at this juncture"

    eyesopenwider, I agree with you.

    Personally I pursue the matter more as a hobby now, but the more important issues are the results of this paradigm changing event.
    They far overshadow the event itself now.

    We have FRUITION headed towards us like a runaway freight train, and it's too late for the sheep catch up with the history of how we got to this point. Most will now die in their dream-state.

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  26. fremo,

    It is true that it will alter the balance....the problem is the balance is weighted to the side of lies so heavily now__even rushing the stage won't put a fix to the puppet show.

    It's all over but the screaming.

    We are on our own. We were always on our own. It is personal enlightenment that was always the quest...

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  27. The American dream think about it. Where America reached it's peak was at the turn of the 20th century. America was fresh and out of little workshops and garages, industry grew and and an enviable lifestyle model started not from the top down but from the bottom up. The Order needs to be brought to account which will alter things on a radical scale. It'll be people picking themselves up again, hopefully we'll have learned from this. For the better or the worse of it, we're here, hope we don't get fooled again

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  28. Se̱or El Once - OCTOBER 20, 2012 Р1:09 PM

    "Mr. Rogue claims to have been a very vocal person on the 9/11 conspiracy meme since its early days, now eleven years passed. When queried where one could find his writings, he didn’t offer many links and waved his hand in the air “COTO” [which then necessitated him spelling it out "Coalition of the Obvious" so it could be googled along with names and aliases.] When one extrapolates Mr. Rogue’s frequency and fervor in postings on T&S backwards to COTO, COTO2, his blog, what can be googled… his online legacy becomes very thin very quickly. He bragged about writing great things that, as luck would have it, got zapped from databases. [It does happen, even to me.] One would think that when he saw other posters get deleted from his favorite online haunts, he would have been clever enough to preserve his worthy words himself. He wasn’t. When he was bumped from various places, one would think he would have used his blog (established 2009) to compensate. He didn’t. All writers have egos; they want their words to be read, just like visual artists want their works to be appreciated. Mr. Rogue certainly has an ego, but such a thin portfolio of what would be required to back up his words of having written lots of words."

    http://truthandshadows.wordpress.com/2012/09/30/official-911-propaganda-embraced-by-truthers-who-say-that-a-plane-hit-the-pentagon/

    Lol...of course I need not explain how ludicrous Señor Beancounter's rhetoric is here at COTO...but I thought it would be interesting to show his empty bravado.

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  29. And perhaps the all time favorite ad hominem pissed my way:

    "..sweatheart, a wad that is dribbling off of Mr. Rogue’s chin onto his blouse. Like another famous skin flute player, preserving the DNA from the clothing article might lead to impeachment or treason trials…"~Señor El Dupe - OCTOBER 12, 2012 – 10:56 AM -

    He is such a nice boy.

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  30. wow, some actual honest to Bob good news. If and when it hits the big screens in the US it will become excellent, paradigm shifting news. 11 or 12 years is but a pittance to wait if what could therein ensue does in fact transpire. We here know the economy should be in full tank mode. Hungry, jobless soon to be homeless masses with a clear focus for where to aim their anger: the entire government and media. Heads may literally roll.

    if it is a curse to live in interesting times, seeing as we don't have much choice... I say let the peaceful revolution begin!

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  31. Choo...Choo....

    Do you find it at all interesting that the film is presented by fleur de lis...given all its connotations?

    This just in...Pope names first Native American Saint...How christian of him? ;-)

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  32. "Pope names first Native American Saint"

    No...are you serious?

    Indeed a tragicomedy.

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  33. Yup...Me tinks it only gets better from here on out...

    This resonates...

    http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj587/eyesopenwider/astana_total_recall_zps5a834391.jpg

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hMIdQOmVE-kMTy_jRDGpP-wvvBtg?docId=CNG.4c9f5973f0cfade445ccb23cc10613ca.f1

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  34. I'm burned out from years of arguing 9/11. How the buildings came down doesn't matter to me. Knowing who did bring them down does.. One thing remains constant about 9/11 after these 11 long years of ever growing tyranny in our country. The attacks on 9/11 are STILL the catalyst that launched this police state. That will never change. IF this movie were to show up in theaters all across the US as a major motion picture, then the majority of Americans would know the truth because they would see all the anomalies right before their eyes.

    THey've been told the conspiracy theory of 9/11 has been debunked but they never really thought it out for themselves. This movie could make them confront for the first time, that it was indeed, an inside job

    I agree with fremo and camus. The more light we shine on the cockroaches, the more they are exposed, the more people aware of the evil, the better chance we have of tipping the scale in our favor.

    I do believe what we project out into the universe, comes back to us. If the vast majority of us acknowledge the truth about the darkness that has covered us, the quicker we can exorcize these "demons" that intend to devour us. FIRST we have to see them, to believe they exist, in order to rid ourselves of them. We, coto, are already there. It's the rest that have to have the blinders removed. The balance between good energy and bad has been tipped to bad. We can tip it back to good. You have to KNOW this is possible.

    Call it the human spirit, hope, confidence, the power of Jesus Christ, whatever... keep it alive.

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  35. I hope Senor is monitoring C1 here. The Rogue was brilliant in the commentaries he made in reference to what this jerk off is portending to discredit. Why the host of COTO2 would censor and delete those postings has to make me wonder what her agenda is. Why would I have want to reply here? Because We had an interchange going with 2 debunkers that we exposed as being shills and we were in our best form. Care to be identified in the shill line up Senor?

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  36. V, it's hard to figure why she would delete our members posts and keep those of a known shill. If there was something that was some sort of threat, remove that particular post, not Will's entire thread of comments. That was ridiculously wrong. She knew those two were agitators because we all came up against them at oen.

    Is this Senor one of these?

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  37. Don't know, probably bought into the Fetzer/Fester spin and is pushing a bad hand. Don't have to tell you that there's all kinds from the dis-info/paid shills crowd to the whacko's out here on the fringes

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  38. Deb,

    I cannot entirely glean what Señor is up to, but he has been determined to frame me as the shill from the moment I began posting on Truth & Shadows.

    It could be he is the covert agent...[?]...it could be simple jealousy as he seems to have been the most prolific with commentary before I came on the scene...his turf as I have taken it to be. He is always counting my posts and throwing up the tally as some sort of indictment.

    I think most likely though, is that he is a 'duped and useful idiot', as he readily refers to himself. He fancies himself as some sort of top notch scientific thinker...he's good at math, but actually he is NOT all that clever with the conceptual side of science, and is apt to apply himself too vigorously to false assumptions.

    He claims to be an "industrial strength conspiracy theorist"...and perhaps he is; Military-Industrial Strength. He says his mission is to "feed my sheep". I would say my mission is to wake the sheep up and free them. There is a lot to glean from the subtext. And just those two foundational statements by Mr Maxwell Bridges aka Señor El Once would indicate to me he is actually acting on behalf of the state.

    I don't think either one of those monikers is actually his real name. He has a hissy fit when the two are identified together, but anyone paying attention to that forum knows they are both the same party, in the intro to one of the articles Mr McKee even points that out. But Max will do the twitch over anything, and say just about anything to win an argument.

    Whatever the answer is, agent or crackpot, one thing is certain, he's a real fuckin' asshole.

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  39. I call it 'Bob' and that goes with weave and that's like the dodge and it's better than a ford, but if we can ford that rapid ahead and break on through to the other side, we can call it macaroni and serve it with cheese.

    Way way deep inside...you gotta get, it's just a ride. Yea it is!! it's just a scary theme park in heaven. No matter what, when you get off the ride, everything is okay!!

    But 'till the segue, be true and don't be blue. Remember y'all volunteered for this. You wanted to do this.

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  40. Hmmm...I know that in Britain "pictures of Lily" means porno.
    Pictures of that special 'flower' {grin}

    Of course it was one of the favorite steel pike heads for a time.
    And then of course all those 'Coats of Arms'...a very elite sort of transmuformula race car like all the logos on NASCAR machines.

    Rev those engines boys! Last one in get's the old maid!!!

    Of course they like to keep their engines clean....Lol

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  41. Now, here's a fit if there ever was one but then this can also be used for many others especially the carny's they put out front at this circus we call society.
    http://youtu.be/UrgpZ0fUixs

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  42. Taking the advice to post 'heritage' copies of my 9/11 thoughts, these are some I have had today:
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    "Writing under a pseudonym or pen name on political topics has a long and distinguished history going back to the Federalist Papers when Founders Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, and James Madison wrote under the pen name of Publius in the late 1700s."~Señor
    . . . . . . . . . .

    Yes, and all these men, the Federalists were traitors to the Revolution, using a charade to spring a constitutional convention, one that led to a central national government, the bane of all free peoples.

    Alexander Hamilton, John Jay were Tory moles to begin with and Madison joining them for a new constitution argument put in the Federalist Papers was a stab in the back and a turning of coat for this "distinguished" gentleman.

    What is the story with Señor? The goat ate his coat so he had to 'turn' to a new one?

    Señor relentlessly defames Jones most often through comments pissed on me, such as this one:

    "This applies to Dr. Jones’s nuclear explanations as well as to his sacred nano-thermite “toro” and “su mierda” that science-challenged folk such as yourself step in and track all over the place."
    Señor El Once - MARCH 2, 2012 – 1:43 PM El Once - on the “Documentary a Noble Lie” thread.

    And then disingenuously claims he has never defamed Jones. He then demands that I provide links to any time he has defamed Jones. I am not his gofer, nor his fetching boy. What I am is; curious as to why Señor cannot simply prove his crackpot nookiedew theory in a straight forward manner, rather than making it his habit to attack Jones with the same spurious bullshit manner of Fetzer, Reynolds, Wood, Prager and now countless others in this fatuous New Wave 9/11 crusade.

    I will answer the above with what I see as obvious – there are no straight forward proofs of nuclear or DEW, because they were not used on WTC on 9/11. So all that is left is a rhetorical spin fest of scurrilous disinformation as dis-framed arguments about nonexistent radiation, coupled with an attempt to defame the original scientists who uncovered the smoking gun evidence of superthermite in the WTC Dust. It is a PSYOP.

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  43. I've been away for a couple of days. This link below is provided by the guy on Rumormillnews named "poof". The video on this link is one JG already put up on her thread last week (so...these guys are all behind COTO). How do you folks read this supposed expose?

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/10/15/breaking-romneys-bain-capitol-drug-front-for-bush-cartel-video/

    This is the "Poof" link where the above is found -- http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=257257

    This individual going by "Poof" has been putting up "any time now" Alerts for years now, along with a guy named "casper", and a few others I can't recall.

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  44. So who's the hot looking "secretary" type in the photo Deb?

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  45. No need to post.

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  46. "I hope Senor is monitoring C1 here."

    Veri, your wish came true on October 21, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    Lol!

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  47. I suppose Señor expected he might come here to find showers of rose petal confetti and laurel wreaths...{?}

    Well I think the 5th is his best option as well {grin}

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  48. Who the fuck is Jeff Prager and why is he saying all those terrible things about Prof Jones?

    http://911blogger.com/news/2012-09-30/mini-nukes-wtc-one-more-time
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    “This is an example of what I mean when I make the statement that 911 Truth groups are worthless. We have a “Building What?” campaign when in fact almost everyone on the planet knows about Building 7 but no one knows about Building 6. It’s all a fraud. Lies on top of lies.”~Prager
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/49624448/Jeff-Prager-Nuclear-911-2011-Detailed-Exposure-of-the-Thermonuclear-Demolition
    . . . . . . . . . . . .

    Prager plays the sneak rhetorical trick of not saying “9/11 Truth Movement” above. So it is plain, Prager is calling all of us liars, not merely the ones he has chosen to personally vilify but the entire movement.

    And this is what I mean when I warn of this New Wave 9/11 “Truth” cabal, Fetzer, Reynolds, Wood, Shack, and the double-back doublecrossers like Legge and the Australian contingent.

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  49. EOW, did you read mypost on the connection to the Vatican and Scientology and Mormonism. The CIA is heavily involved in the Mormon religion and they were involved with 911. They operate heavily in Latin America and they have for years.

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/billy-grahams-website-removes-mormonism-from-cult-list/

    This is the Apotheosis I refer to in my PREDICTIONS for 2012. If you are not up to speed on The Book OF Mormon and the history of Joe Smith, then watch the documentary from J Ed Decker. I have HAARP'd on the unification of one world order under G6 agenda 21 and the and of religion.

    Wait for the Shot heard around the World and see the Billy Grahams, Pope, Oprah, PResident and the prophets like Oseen and Hinns come from the woodwork out along with the new agers and wait to see the Operation known as Bluebeam in all it's glory present what we already see as fanatical, bizarre events, financial crisis and the mental sickness of the nation become so insane you will no longer recognize your world.

    The Miami surfer boys are leaving soon for good. I should have as well. It's food, water and events that will force us into a dyer situation that is approaching. There's no secrets to why the mormons are prepared. Why do you think they have a largest database in Salt Lake?

    I can fully appreciate the masses being blind to the truth but it will cause them an early exit. The Native American Casino owners are infiltrated by Scientology and Mormons and they are after the children, the weakest as well as the Casino profits and financial matters. The Lucifer Trust has the nation covered in the Catholic East and Mormonism west of the Mississippi and Scientology in California Nevada and Utah .

    The FBI and CIA run interference for their criminal activity here in the US just like they do in Latin America for the Cartels. Mormon conversion is highest in South America and the money is flowing up the Masonic Pyramid.

    I also have postured the French as involved with the JFK assassination and 911. It's your Fleur de li and Rom ney.



    Le Cercle - The French Connection and Mit Romney............tbc

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  50. War is Peace, mon ami. Once the 'Disclosure" is ramped up to the election the cycle will increase and I fear anything but a passive encounter with the ruling minority.

    The rapid changes since the HOPE set sail is about to fire the big one across the bow. I warn you that this is not a warning shot. The truth will be a bitter pill that pacifists will not be able to swallow.

    Double time the prep work is my recommendation.

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  51. Absolutely true IMO. It's a case of many cases we have discussed and exposed here. Bain has the access to the Bush Black Box from CIA days. We've seen that on several occasions as well.

    Hope has to have the 47% and illegals voting twice to counter the Tragedy of the Black Box gang.

    This is not an election but the Super Bowl of the competing finalists. And you all thought the XXX Games were over? :) :) :) - tee-hee-hee

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  52. http://cotocrew.wordpress.com/2012/08/24/two-four-6-eight/

    Why HAARP missed Tampa but not The Norman Mormon Romney and his Mammon.

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  53. Rogue...Puddy added the detail to the fluer...

    I've learned a lot from you Puddy (u to Rogue and most everyone here)...and been rather confused (all me...) at times as well ;-) ...

    Over the last several years I've probably consumed more data than the average person does in 5 life times...I finally came to realize...

    Evil (pathocracy) runs the world (a very logical conclusion)...always has...there's been enclaves against it here and there (maybe there still are? idk) ...it's very deceptive...as it should be....I no longer really go into the details of the who's, what's, or how's of it...I simply view the world as upside down...things become crystal clear to me with that perspective change...

    I spent the last few days here...

    http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj587/eyesopenwider/sunset_zps38ceeab1.jpg

    The world is still a beautiful place...I need to remind myself every now and then.


    You might enjoy these songs (The Housemartins) .


    2nd and 3rd songs are imho amazing...then again...I found the entire album to be thoughtful & moving.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_r6IGR4q_A&feature=relmfu

    "God never wrote a book...other than the one written inside each and everyone of us" ~ Me (as far as I know...)

    I luv to ramble...

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  54. The more I know...the more I know...just how little I really know...

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  55. Senor El Once Over reminds me of one Tom Murphy

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  56. Yes...isn't that interesting as he frames himself as a Truther.

    Things become curioser and curioser as we are led down the rabbit hole.

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    “We will use the units of Becquerels for the rest of this analysis because it is a much less disingenuous unit [than a nanocurie].”
    ~Pro Nukes @ WTC essay [Malcolm Perpey]

    That is rather like saying;
    We will use the units of Millimeters for the rest of this analysis because it is a much less disingenuous unit [than an inch].

    The first thing one notices is the descriptors and characterizations used in a text, these reveal much about the authors attitude and intents towards the subject [*deconstruction].

    So just what is it that makes a nanocurie a “disingenuous unit”?

    It is in the psychological effect of using smaller numbers of them, just like the numbers of millimeters in a formula would be vastly larger than measurements in inches – one can use larger numbers with becquerels than when using nanocurries.

    It seems using the term “disingenuous” is that which is actually disingenuous in this instance. The“sievert” is the most modern protocol unit – see: The International System of Units (SI) 7th Edition - 1998

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  57. I have butterfly jewelry, my daughter wore butterfly tshirts & barrettes...We aren't MKMonarch slaves. I had tiny symbols of fleur de lis on my wallpaper in my kitchen many moons ago because I thought it looked pretty. I have a friend who is an avid Saints fan who LOVES the fleur de lis because she loves the team. It's the symbol of NOLA. Maybe the guy that owns the studio is from NOLA?

    Not everyone that uses such symbols is part of the evil machine.......

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  58. "Mr. Rogue has his Q-group assignment, and evidently I am it and have been it since January 2012."~Se̱or El Once - OCTOBER 19, 2012 Р4:35 PM "Official 9/11 propaganda embraced" thread.

    Here we have 'proximate cause'. It is paranoid bullshit. It's either that or Max is deflecting his own position as an agent.

    As everyone here knows full well, I am especially interested in dialog and blogs on the topic of 9/11. As such I happened on an article by Craig McKee on his blog Truth & Shadows. As Señor notes this was in January 2012...or I take his word for it that this is so, because I never thought about it as a 'date to remember', I simply read the article at that time and found there was a comments section and being my outspoken self; I made a comment.

    Now Señor is asserting that I was given an assignment to go to this blog site and seek him out in particular! Yes, It strikes me as whacky, but he seems to have convinced himself that this is the case. Or is that really the whole of it?

    I noticed when Fetzer first arrived that he pinned me instantly as someone to degrade. He began a campaign to have me banned within just a few exchanges on the first thread we encountered each other.

    It becomes more complex as I had an exchange with another commentator called Tamborine Man just a few hours earlier, wherein he jumped my bones over a seemingly tepid remark I had made. When Fetzer showed up on the next thread a few hours later, it became obvious that Tamborine was his 'puppy dog'...

    It seemed to me that Fetzer had been notified that there was someone at this site that had some chops, someone needing to be dealt with by a 'heavyweight'.

    So now the theater began to turn into some Kafkaesque burlesque.

    I knew Fetzer was pro-disinfo right away. I figured Tamborine as an assistant. Señor has been the question mark the whole time. But as things have evolved, it is becoming more and more my view that he is also a "military-industrial strength 'conspiracy theorist' ". It is in that he has been so intent on framing me as an agent that has my alarms going off as to this.

    Fetzer's MO is blatant, as is his entourage. However Señor is a chameleon, either the more expert and subtle agent, or simply the 'duped and useful idiot' he claims to be. I am obviously beginning to weight the first descriptor as the answer.

    What none of these characters seem to grasp is that in doesn't matter whether they are agents, or crackpots! Their disingenuous argumentation is that, one way or the other.

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  59. "Not everyone that uses such symbols is part of the evil machine.."

    That is absolutely true Deb. I have expressed this thought before, it could in fact be part of my Scragged Again essay.

    It should be remembered that icons are part of human symbolism, and Jung should be taken into account on this topic.

    Always remember being a kid. Remember the things that excited you, the spooky things that delighted,...skulls and witches and hob goblins.

    That the elite propagandists have USED this iconic imagery doesn't mean it is their own personal property.

    The All Seeing Eye originally depicted the Pineal, and the awakened mind/soul. That this has been put to evil ends does not deflate the central truths of being human.

    All curious children love bugs and the beauty of butterflies. Let us all step back for some rational perspective on such things. We can parse things more clearly without the hysteria.

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  60. Forget waiting for the film, read the book it is based on:
    http://www.amazon.com/America-Deceived-II-Possession-interrogation/dp/1450257437

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  61. All this time on the web and I still don't know what 'IMO' means.

    So...???

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  62. "The more you know the more you know you don't know..
    It's like that!"
    ~The Fibonaccis , sometime in the 80s

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  63. I totally agree Will. In fact, I always say, we need to take them back for our own. Butterflies are beautiful and they should not stand for anything as ugly as Project Monarch. I will wear my butterflies freely! lol

    Btw, IMO means in my opinion. IMHO means in my humble
    opinion.

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  64. Puddy,

    A strikingly beautiful header this time!!
    I am a 12 year old kid looking out the rear window of our car as it speeds up the highway the other direction......You?

    Has anyone else found the web particularly wacky today?

    Thanks for the book info Nick!

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  65. Wow, look at the warning on the bottom of the book. Sing it Bowie.. "this is not Americaaaa"

    Amerikans don't read books. They watch teevee, dvds and occasionally go to a movie. That's why this movie coming out to wide distribution would be awesome but I don't see it happening.

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  66. What posting restrictions are there? Length?
    What of the following HTML syntax are not allowed?

    <b> </b>
    <i> </i>
    <blockquote> </blockquote>
    <a href="..."> </a>

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  67. DISCLAIMER: Amazon does not endorse, support, promote or condone any of the thoughts, ideas, or language presented in the novel "America Deceived II" by E.A. Blayre III.

    READ AT YOUR OWN RISK

    Hmmm...???

    If Amazon doesn't like it, that is a good point!

    BUT is the movie REALLY based on this novel? And how would Nick know this? Any further comments Nick?

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  68. No "post toasties" please.

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  69. Oh great!

    Thanks Deb...I did wonder about the second one too.

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  70. What is this about???

    Are you referring to Señor's post of today?

    Do you know what he is talking about Boomer?

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  71. I don't know the answer to that one, or what the exact protocol is.

    What have you tried to do that didn't work?

    You obviously got this comment to post...

    You should realize I already have a problem with the length of some of your comments elsewhere...but I don't know what is happening here today.



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  72. God's divine law of protection. Despite stripping out HTML, other artifacts, and splitting into two to shorten, no success in posting here.

    Just a well. I wasn't planning on being a regular. It is a time-suck this "pretend agent" doesn't need.

    If the admin will see fit to deleting all of my failed attempts that might persist in the database, I'd appreciate it. Sorry for the inconvenience.

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  73. FYI, it doesn't like basic HTML syntax supported by other WordPress sites (like Mr. McKee's). The above was a fake mockup of those simple HTML constructs. When real constructs were inserted, no go.

    Once that was gone, seems to have coughed and choked on the length. Probably limited to 4000 characters with spaces or so. My posting was a biggie but no biggie for it not to appear. My bad.

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  74. i just saw this. Actually that is me, a real hot secretary...wink wink..lol....I look more frazzled than hot. I wanted to look "serious" in lieu of the times. I took it yesterday at my desk after a very loooooooooooong, busy day.

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  75. At any rate, as far as I know this film is just now set to be filmed.

    I don't think filming had begun when this pre-ad campaign was sent out.

    It is also my understanding that the script is original and is not taken from a novel. In fact I am pretty sure this film will end up being a LIHOP - Let It Happen On Purpose take on 9/11.

    That was the impression we got on T&S, in speaking to the writer. In fact the writer was a bit pissed after the commentary, as he was being pushed to be more bold, and he was saying it's too soon.

    My view is it is never too soon for the truth.

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  76. “Details of the film, which is to be directed by BJ Davis and written by Howard Cohen, are expected to be revealed at an American Film Market conference in Los Angeles..... that's supposed to be happening some time this week, Will...

    You talked with Howard Cohen about this??

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  77. Craig McKee had interviewed him and written a story for T&S.

    In the comments section Cohen participated for a time.

    A bone of contention between several of the T&S regulars was that the event at the Pentagon was off of the table as far as the script was anticipating.

    This eventually put him off - and later he made it clear to Craig that he was sorry he had allowed the interview and story to take place. It isn't clear to me for certain, but it does seem that it is going to lean towards the administration allowing the events to take place.

    I think the evidence is determinate that this was a systemic false flag psyop. So I think we may end up with milquetoast 9/11.

    I have to say the title choice is pretty lame.

    I think: "is to be directed" is I think the key term as to the state of the project at this point.

    I did comment on the thread, and I recall I was skeptical of the way Cohen seemed to be leaning.

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  78. That sucks but I'm not surprised...yea the title is definitely lame

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  79. I want to make note here...

    Why would I care one way or the other if there is a nuclear aspect to the WTC demolition?

    That I have been wrong?? I've been wrong before on a few things! It is certainly not the end of the world to find out you are mistaken.

    The bottom line on this is that the nuclear theory has not been even close to proven. All the data I know of tends against it. IF it is true, I do want to be convinced.

    Anyone who has such proof; I welcome it here. But I don't want anymore hunches or assumptions. I want a rational explanation of what it is that proves beyond a reasonable doubt. Simple.

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  80. IMO-in my opinion (add H for humility)

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  81. http://truthandshadows.wordpress.com/2012/03/21/hollywood-911-feature-to-favour-human-drama-and-safe-evidence/

    Here is the URL to the article on T&S with Craig's interview of Cohen.''
    I am mistaken in that Cohen actually participated in the dialog. Apparently he was already pissed about the article itself, and emailed that he wasn't going to discuss it publicly anymore.

    It's still up in the air how powerful this film may or may not be...

    If it were dealt with by a real maverick like Oliver Stone dealt with the JFK coup, that would be something. But even Stone petered out on the 9/11 piece of patriotic crap he did.

    Only seeing it will tell the tale.

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  82. Ah Will, this is one we've all been over many times before. There's been some good stuff come via C1 and your own research in how thermitic materials could be engineered to either be an incendiary or explosives. I couldn't really say how a nuke would have taken the buildings down if that was the case but I doubt that it could have been engineered to bring the buildings down in their own foot prints. And then there's the hologram, DEW types. This is again a case of where we have to trust our own common sense, we either buy into some esoterica or for lack of an outed truth that's really all we have to go on. I'll go with a classic demolition using state of the art weapons grade explosives. Against what some here might think, I doubt they're sophisticated enough to not go that route especially when you consider that their propaganda has been in high gear for a long time now. For the most part we the masses are just innocent and gullible enough to believe whatever crap they'll put out and they know it. Fear is their modus operandi and they're prepared for a child of fear, anger.

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  83. "For the most part we the masses are just innocent and gullible enough to believe whatever crap they’ll put out and they know it. Fear is their modus operandi and they’re prepared for a child of fear, anger."

    Yea Veri, we have to consider that the 9/11 movement is made up of, and is a microcosm of the general dumbed down prefrab sprouts this population is.

    A false flag new wave 9/11 reverse psychology program is a natch for the system to employ. The exotic theoreticals are also a pre-programmed aptitude for the Amerikan's in particulate. They are quickly bored, and need new 'entertainment'...I think that is part of Maxwell's make-up, he is definitely a follower of fad and fashion.
    "I want a new toy - ohwayo..."

    But naivete is far from innocence...it comes at great price.

    There is a certain profile to controlled demolition. All of the aspects of controlled demo are present at WTC, the fact of top down for the towers is the only unique aspect for those. All other signature characteristics apply. It is difficult to imagine another manner that could mimic CT so perfectly. It is so highly unlikely, and that is the first issue to be considered. One of those "walks like a duck" deals.

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  84. Scanning the article at T&S, I noticed that the script writer is drawing heavily on a David Lee Griffith book...which is a good sign.
    I think Cohen was especially concerned about delving into the Pentagon....there are a slew of core T&S who's main forte is the Pentagon. Craig has been hotter on that himself. So Cohen didn't get along with the angle Craig had to his story on the interview.

    We just have to see the film itself to judge it.

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  85. Se̱or El Once - OCTOBER 20, 2012 Р1:09 PM

    >"The real kicker for me has always been his reaction and handling of “Judy, Judy, Judy” (and now also “Jeff, Jeff, Jeff”). How many months did he try to pass of his book review of Dr. Wood WITHOUT having her book? Then after I called his bluff and got the book into hands for the purposes of an objective review (good, bad, and ugly), he hasn’t changed his tune in the least. In fact, he hasn’t acknowledged one good thing from reading or skimming her book that he didn’t know before. And to keep his opinions in the rut they were in, he coughs up alternatives that he doggedly won’t admit have deficiencies in adding up."~//
    . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

    So this is more bullshit. The threads on 'Judy, Judy, Judy' were not formatted as a "book review" in the first place. I have read extensively for Wood's site and essays by her and Reynolds as well. I am exceedingly knowledgeable of her half assed story.

    I did get the book, and my judgement of it is that the "good" of it is summed up as a nice solid coffee table book, with nicely reproduced images of 9/11.
    The text is however the very same bullshit that is on her web site, the only thing different is lack of referral to "space beams" - I haven't "acknowledged one good thing" that I "didn't know before" because there isn't a single fucking thing that I didn't already know about her bullshit pseudoscience.

    And as far as admitting there are "deficiencies in adding up," as far as my opinions, that is nothing but Señor's own faulty opinion. Wood's woowoo is what doesn't add up...there simply isn't any "there" there.

    And as far as Prager, I have touched on that sufficiently here to say the same thing about his crap. There is not a SINGLE substantial proof of a nuclear reaction taking place at WTC on 9/11 - nothing!

    Wood, along with Prager, Morgan Reynolds, Fetzer, Onebornefree, Shack, and many others in the New Wave 9/11 cabal are running a continuation of the 9/11 PSYOP - by reverse psychology. A distraction to keep those who will fall for it running around in the weeds looking for phantoms, while the real problems are ignored.

    Like I pointed out above, it is a new toy, for 9/11 fadsters to play with.
    It is a game, a hobby horse, and a plaything, that is all New Wave 9/11 is.

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  86. One more note here for now;

    As Señor may very well be checking in to see what else is written here.

    I am commenting to his very last post on the thread on T&S that I gave him last word on there. I am answering here rather than there because every single point I just made above has been made countless times to Señor.

    After awhile one gets fed up with the perpetual round'about of this whole trip.

    I gave him the last word there. He doesn't get the last word here. The carousel will not work here. It has played itself out at T&S. Señor has his own blog as well, if he wants to tell his perspective there that is his prerogative, COTO is a site for members to post their "legend".

    If Craig posts an essay on Nukes 9/11 on T&S, I am prepared to make a full and thorough rebuttal at that time. And if Señor wants to crank up the Calliope one more time there he may, and we will let the chips fall where they may.

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  87. As a kid I was always preoccu-pi'd with the traffic lights and thought them to be as big as cars blowing in the tropical gusts. The same for the beacon lights flying back and forth in the night skies.

    The all seeing eye says it's green for go on Agenda 21. The die off- culling will be seen from their rampart parapet trianglular perch.

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  88. http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/archive/Truth-Jihad-32k-102212.mp3


    Craign McKee and Shelton Langford on Kevin Barrett's web radio broadcast, in the main dealing with the Pentagon 9/11 event.

    Very interesting, check it out.

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  89. Here is one sure to stick in the craw of Maxwell Smartass:
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    Ruffadam - OCTOBER 25, 2012 – 12:34 AM

    HR1,

    "Rest assured that myself and many others keep up with these conversations even in those cases where it looks as though you are the lone voice to counter the disinformationists. If I had any arguments with what you have said I would have spoken up. I have not found any reason (so far) to disagree with you concerning what I have read of your posts. Keep up the good work, I and others are listening and occasionally, as time permits, contributing to these discussions."

    http://truthandshadows.wordpress.com/2012/10/11/ventura-asner-ae-film-and-a-legal-heavyweight-provide-good-news-for-911-truth/

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  90. Ah, shucks. Guess it sticks in Mr. Rogue's craw that:

    [A] Like Mr. RuffAdam, I didn't have any arguments with what Mr. Rogue wrote to "A.Wright" either. Except that Mr. Rogue engaged him at all. Seems a bit "legacy-establishing"-like.

    [B] Mr. RuffAdam wrote on October 3, 2012:
    "Senior you do NOT fall into the category of "dishonest operators" as far as I am concerned."
    http://truthandshadows.wordpress.com/2012/09/30/official-911-propaganda-embraced-by-truthers-who-say-that-a-plane-hit-the-pentagon/#comment-13415

    The technical limitations of COTO are entirely under the whims of this blog's WordPress admin, because T&S and Mr. Rogue's blog also WordPress sites do not have them.

    Be that as it may, after experiencing COTO's posting limitations, I understand better why Mr. Rogue's postings on T&S are so formatting-deficient and why Mr. Rogue argues for short postings. Mr. Rogue wants T&S to come down to the lowest-common-denominator re-use factor deployed here.

    On yet another note, I love Mr. Rogue's PR advance-man work on me:

    2012-09-29: a tacky tar-baby that sticks to you once you engage it.
    2012-10-10: Señor El Once aka The Duped Useful Idiot aka Señor El Goombah aka The Beancounter…etc etc is a LIAR.
    2012-10-19: a pretender who uses disingenuous argumentation
    2012-10-20: Señor is a chameleon, either the more expert and subtle agent, or simply the ‘duped and useful idiot’ he claims to be.
    2012-10-21: It could be he is the covert agent.
    2012-10-21: Whatever the answer is, agent or crackpot, one thing is certain, he’s a real fuckin’ asshole.

    I could teeter either way regarding belief in the words of Mr. Rogue's saluting supporter, Mr. Veritable1:
    "The Rogue was brilliant in the commentaries he made in reference to what this jerk off is portending to discredit. Why the host of COTO2 would censor and delete those postings has to make me wonder what her agenda is. ... Care to be identified in the shill line up Senor?"

    Although Mr. Rogue's brilliant commentaries were zapped from COTO2, two elements remain. The words of his discussion participants (e.g., Albury, A.Wright) hint in a action-reaction sense at the frequency of his efforts, while similar posting length restrictions hint at their depth. The wayback machine, despite its many scans, has its backups spaced too far apart to retrieve those brilliant words. A backwards extrapolation guesstimate from his T&S efforts still has COTO2 coming up short for what one could expect a proven-prolific retiree's efforts to be, but oh well. Such a sad sudden loss of written wisdom.

    Here's a coincidence. To get the gift of a book delivered, the option chosen by the eager reader was to provide a mailing address, as opposed to ordering & paying on his own and then being re-imbursed through PayPal. Although not requested, the gift-receiver also gave a contact telephone number in the event issues in the delivery should arise. Recently when pretending to be an agent, a reverse look-up was performed on the lingering telephone number. No surprise that the physical address of the telephone number matched where the book was ordered to be sent. The surprise was the middle initial and last name of the telephone subscriber: "A.Wright". Just a coincidence with no explanation needed. Aye.

    On this note, allow me to apologize for coming here and posting this, because I have no intention of being a regular contributor. But seeing how Mr. Rogue stuck something in my craw -- actually many things as seen above --, it seemed appropriate to take advantage of this one opportunity to respond so that Mr. Veritable1 might be justified in adding some "jerk off" to the "shill line-up."

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  91. Yada Yada Yada, Here's your hat and coat, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. We respect the Rogue'ster over here and cover each other's 6's, you're a bogy and in hostile territory so run along.

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  92. Yea, indeed. Run along. We don't abide anyone coming here to slander our friends.

    What's wrong with our format? PD??

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  93. "Seems a bit “legacy-establishing”-like."~Maxwell Smartass

    There are numerous 'seems' and 'seemingly' thoughts in Maxi's shallow brain pan...it does not seem thus, but is flaming in your face obvious!

    So, yea my mom's name is Ruth Wright, having married a Wright, who was my stepdad from the time I was around four years old. But we shall let not the slightest coincidence pass without due deliberation when we are desperate to frame me as a SECRET AGENT MAN.

    As far as "legacy" - WTF? Although it pissed me off to high heaven when Kuntananda trashed all of those long hours of works in words, this whole bit about 'establishing a legacy' had never crossed my mind until the concept was introduced by the Beancounter.

    As it is just so that the subtext reveals where the author is really poised, it is obvious that this 'legacy' deal is of utmost importance to Señor Asshole Rex.

    Slander is all he has. This much has become increasingly obvious as time goes by...

    The post by Adam Ruff obviously really got to him, aye?

    Standing on the 5th was your best option Mr Bridges, I advise you fall back to it.

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  94. Deb and Veri,

    Thanks for the support. I think it's pretty funny, I mean the bit about my mom's last name, sheeeeeze!__talk about weak synapses connections...woowoo!!

    We got the meat-grinder right here for ya if you want to keep sticking your tongue in it Maxi baby....{grin}

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  95. He isn't as much fun as agent Assbury. I doubt if this dweeb'll keep it up for 771 comments. You named the agent "Albury Smith" Will.. You bring that up online, it comes right up. He or it actually has some notoriety. Funny that.

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  96. "He isn’t as much fun as agent Assbury."

    Actually Max is just a bore.

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  97. The scientific method of NFPA 921 (TCFI 2001) requires an objective analysis of the facts and careful attention to all relevant details. TCFI 2001 states: "Subjective or speculative information cannot be included in the analysis, only facts that can be proven clearly by observation or experiment."

    I find this to be good protocol for all investigative analysis. And this is a bone of contention with MixMax and I. He has the habit of mixing up that which is fact and speculation.

    I have chided him time and again that his crackpot "theoreticals" are nothing but assumptions compiled atop speculation. Castles built on sand.

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  98. I haven't met one sane person since I left California – not a single one!!!

    People like to dis California...especially "Liberal Southern California"...

    ...and to an extent I can see what they mean.

    But I knew people there personally...you know IN PERSON, that weren't fuckin' TVZombie loonballs!

    Nine years later, and the only sane people I know are on the Internet.

    "What a long strange trip it's been..."

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  99. Dear Mr. Veritable1,

    Thank you so much for handing me my hat and coat; with the onset of real weather, they are indispensable. As well, kind regards for your gracious thoughts into the safety of my glutius maximus with respect to getting impacted by the exit door with an energetic closing mechanism.

    Dear Ms. JerseyG,

    Slander has not been uttered, and the writing is not libel if it can be proven true. But because it involves your "friends," I understand the sentiment that lends them the benefit of the doubt first and makes abiding the pop-up entrances of someone typing such words a formidable obstacle to comprehension.

    Dear Mr. Rogue,

    It was not my intent for either of us to publicly reveal your mother's name, so my humble apologies. The salient point that you confirm is that you have an affinity to the initial "A" and a particular last name, which might lead one to suspect that an alias with that initial and last name might really be a sock-puppet. It gives stunning new depth and perspective to the lessons you taught of pincer movements in the discussion forums.

    Everybody,

    You go right on ahead and keep "covering each other's 6's." I will gladly heed the advice to "run along."

    This "bogy" is now outbound from "hostile territory."

    Ya'all have a great time. Carry on. "Yada Yada Yada."

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  100. "Legacy-establishing"?!! Oh, I'm sorry for that freudian slip. Mr. Rogue is absolutely correct that I didn't mean for this to apply here. The word "legacy" comes from a discussion with another who really has been building an internet legacy, and due to its similar spelling, it slipped in my prose to Mr. Rogue.

    Instead of "legacy", I meant "legend."

    I meant: "legend-establishing".

    Still, though, given that Mr. Rogue has expressed interest in writing the biography of his very interesting life, the freudian slip of "legacy" might have some applicability. It was indeed his legacy that I sought on line, and was disappointed.

    "Framing Mr. Rogue as a SECRET AGENT MAN"? My regrets. "Forgive me, because I know not what I do." My real intent has never been for this frame to stick but for this frame to jar. In fact, I've provided plenty of building material for a new frame to be constructed. We know what they say about leading a jack-ass to water but not being able to make them drink. Of the three words, emphasis should be on the first word: "good," "bad," and "ugly." That's all that is required for a new, more accurate frame to be constructed that highlights a reflective picture that Mr. Rogue, his mother, and I would be pleased to see.

    Meanwhile, an interesting written occurrence appears when two of Mr. Rogue's paragraphs are run together: "... of utmost importance to Señor Asshole Rex. Slander is all he has." Where those very words spoken, by golly they'd be representative of slander that Mr. Rogue seems to decry. They were written, though, so become libelous.

    P.S. Again, my humble apologies that Mr. Rogue's mother's name should be publicly revealed. I wrote no first names, no gender cues; just a connection to Mr. Rogue where he might have an affinity to certain names. It would be kind of funny if the "A.Wright" alias is NOT his sock-puppet, but his actual mother with whom he's been debating. Good to know that "A.Wright" can share his copy of "Judy, Judy, Judy" and "Jeff, Jeff, Jeff", so I can cross that alias off of my secret-Santa list.

    // my craw is clean

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  101. "...the writing is not libel if it can be proven true."~Maxiconjob

    That has always been your problem Max, your framing of opinion as fact, assumptions swollen like zeppelins of hot air floating like phantoms through your highly charged textual tango jango.

    Your "humble apologies" are as obviously disingenuous as the rest of your burlesque.

    Go count beans.

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  102. WTF Maxiloon?

    Do you actually think I care what you think?

    What is it you are trying to prove here? So far you have verified you are an asshole. So that cannot be "slander" but a simple statement of fact.

    There is no payoff to be found here. If you're bored go count the "slanders" I dished out on T&S, take your time to find each and every one, time stamp and dated in chronological order. If that's not enough for you then an addendum of the same material in alphabetical order might be handy.

    Then at the first opportunity you can spring it on me as a 2000 word defamation tome on our favorite 9/11 blog.

    And when you finish doing that, bring in the dog and put out the cat...

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  103. That reminds me of a duster movie I seen. I'll never forget Sam Elliot's line when they're in the saloon just off of a long cattle drive for some R&R when some pistol packing tin horn comes up and starts harassing them at the table. From under the table you hear "click, click" as Sam's pulling the hammers back on his shot gun. The dude says; "What's that for?"
    Sam says; "Varment"
    As bucko's backing away from the table.
    The trail boss pipes up; "Now that was cruel".
    Nasty crowd here,now ain't we? Senor Bucko.

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  104. "This piece, written by Maxwell C. Bridges... a frequent contributor to this blog under the name Señor El Once."~Craig McKee

    So, hmmm? As far as "outing" Mr Bridges britches, it seems the dood be out long ago and far away....aye...yea yea yea. Perhaps a spaniel spanner and a dippidy wooden shoe missed the gearbox.

    So flies on wank!! @:

    http://truthandshadows.wordpress.com/2011/06/07/on-the-directed-energy-weapon-hypothesis-an-open-letter-to-gage-and-cole/

    Some promo for slomo

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  105. "Most of this technology is classified information. It can also be assumed that such technology exists in multiple countries."
    ~ Dr. Judy Wood and Dr. Morgan, from introduction to:

    The Star Wars Beam Weapons and Star Wars Directed-Energy Weapons (DEW) by Reynolds (originally posted: October 17, 2006)

    "Most of this technology is classified information,”

    __'Therefore we can assume it has advanced to ANY degree that is suitable for our purposes'.

    Just like the term “national security” is used for an excuse to NOT answer questions by politicians and military industrialists, the use of PRESUMPTION is given free reign on the other end of the scale.

    It is therefore incumbent upon rational investigation to hold some modicum of empirical standards when unraveling such events as 9/11.
    . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

    But of course the real strategy of "military-industrial strength conspiracy theory" is like the strategy of full spectrum dominance - 'endless war'.

    The strategy behind the New Wave 9/11 assault is, 'endless argument', 'the forever yada'__or "yotta" -- the septillion word debate.

    And that is PSYOP; the 'NPT', 'V-fakery', 'Holograms', 'DEW', 'Nukes', all incumbent on the attrition of the the endless argument...the GRAND STALL.

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  106. "So if nano-thermite has been incorrectly extrapolated by the yeomen of the 9/11 Truth Movement to explain observed destruction features that it cannot, then we are left with a void that must be filled, evidence in need of an explanation."~Maxwell Bridges

    "IF" is the key word in the above assertion. There are several aspects of this, to which Mr Bridges has glazed his remarks in a most rhetorically clever manner.

    There are mis-framed items all throughout this essay that have been addressed time and again on the Truth and Shadows threads. But Mr Bridges will not accept any of it, but insists that his critics do not understand his arguments, they are "yeomen" in his arrogant assessment.

    It makes no difference to Bridges that it is posited that there were other sol-gel nano-explosives used along side of the particular product of the Jones, Harrit paper.

    Bridges mis-frames the hot spots in the aftermath as 'constant' when they are in fact intermittent. He rejects the perfectly rational explanation of a wandering burn, wherein the generally salted grains of thermite throughout the pile will occasionally meet areas where it is found in concentrated amounts and a sudden flare up would occur.

    He cites NIST’s Dr. Shyam Sunder's confidence in making statements that have been to proven be totally wrong, considering the sounds of explosives during the destruction of the World Trade Center.

    All of this predicated on the speculation of "classified weapons". Yes tantalizing but assumption nevertheless - when in fact the military grade energetic nano products are known and described in the open literature.
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    It is in having gone round'n'round with Maximoto for close to ten months in an endless gyre of assertion counter assertion, that the aggravation of dealing with his odd combination of hubris and ignorance, leads to ridiculing the ridiculous, which is then framed as "ad homenim" by Bridges.

    And THAT turns into another layer of endless bullshit.

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  107. I want to know WHO this motherfucker really is.

    "Maxwell Circuits Bridges" is too obvious a made up name having to do with electrical circuitry.

    So we are actually dealing with an anonymous troll when dealing with this character.

    I am obviously who I have presented myself to be, Willy Whitten, a retired special effects artist. Anyone can look my bona fides up on a web search.

    So we have this ghoul posing behind numerous monikers...how many? He could be A. Wright himself for all anybody knows, hell he could even be the infamous Albury Smith!!!

    He is a phantom, a gaseous non d'plume that can do and say anything with impunity. He cites "the founding fathers" as precedent for the use of these aliases...but as we well know, Hamilton, Jay, and Madison were sneaky sonsofbitches that hoisted a central national government on revolutionary America.

    They were elitists grasping for total control, and designed a "constitution" that has resulted in just that, a full spectrum dominance dictatorship and police state.

    So who is Maxwell Smartass? That is the prime question at this stage, he is clearly an underhanded slimeball, more interested in creating his "legend" than seeking the truth.

    I do believe that karma will work its method on this cretin. He will end up tossing himself off his high bridge in his dizzy hysteria.

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  108. There are 513,617 people in the United States with the surname of Wright__513,617!!!

    And beyond this we don't even know if “A. Wright” is posting under a real name.

    I see Denver Colorado showed up 5 minutes ago...
    ..that could be Señor Smartass. He lives in that area...probably had a hand in the Aurora shooting incident. Who knows what kind of spook this motherfucker really is? He obviously has no scruples.

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  109. Could be, also as with Albury Smith, hired dis-info agents deep in the bowels of some government complex there to engage us to shine a negative light and keep us off center. Could be, Assbury is in the next cubicle and this is their day job. About all you can expect from some low life unconscionable puke

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  110. “We the people demand that the government revisit and initiates a thorough and independent investigation to the tragic events of 911.”

    "..revisit and initiates.." I have a sense that the tense is amiss and wonder at the writing skill of the author...{???}.

    Wouldn't - "revisit and initiate" be proper in this instantaneous instance?

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  111. “O Lord, Make my enemies ridiculous.”~Voltaire

    – {Grin}

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  112. Just a test to see where this comment ends up on the thread...and what date and time.

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