Thursday, April 1, 2010

IMPEACH OBAMA

Article by Dave Lindorff

Illustrated by John Murphy

THE CASE FOR IMPEACHMENT OF PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA

By Dave Lindorff

Back in 2005-06, I wrote a book, “The Case for Impeachment”, in which I made the argument that President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney, as well as other key figures in the Bush/Cheney administration--Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales--should be impeached for war crimes, as well as crimes against the Constitution of the United States.



These days, when I mention the book's title, people sometimes ask, half in jest, whether I'm referring to the current president, Barack Obama.

Sadly, it is time to say, just 14 months into the current term of this new president, that yes, this president, and some of his subordinates, are also guilty of impeachable crimes--including many of the same ones committed by Bush and Cheney.

Let's start with the war in Afghanistan, which Obama has taken full ownership of with an escalation that will bring the number of US troops in that country (not counting mercenaries hired by the Pentagon and CIA) to 100,000 by this August.

The president has authorized the use of Predator drone aircraft for a program of bombing conducted against Pakistan which has illegally expanded the Afghan War into another country without any authorization from Congress. These pilotless drones are known to kill far more innocent bystanders than enemy targets, making them fundamentally illegal on principle as weapons. Furthermore, this wave of attacks in Pakistan is a war of aggression against another nation if the word "war" is to have any meaning at all, and as such it is illegal under the UN Charter. Indeed initiating a war of aggression against a country which does not pose an immediate threat to the invader is described in the Charter and in the Nuremberg Tribunal Charter as the gravest of all war crimes.

“What I can say is that it is the considered view of [President Obama], and it has certainly been my experience during my time as legal adviser, that US targeting practices, including lethal operations conducted with the use of unmanned aerial vehicles, UAVs, comply with all applicable law, including the laws of war.”

Harold Koh, State Department legal adviser

The president, as commander in chief, has also, in collusion with Attorney Eric Holder, blocked any prosecution of those who authorized and perpetrated torture against captives in the War in Iraq, the War in Afghanistan, and the so-called War on Terror--notably Federal Appeals Court Judge Jay Baybee, and Berkeley Law Professor John Yoo, who as Justice Department attorneys authored the legal briefs justifying torture-- and has in fact continued to permit the application of torture against captives. All of this is in clear violation of the Geneva Conventions, which as a signed set of treaties, are part of the law of the United States. Under those treaties, failure on the part of those up the chain of command to halt or to punish those who commit torture are themselves guilty of the crime of torture.





As commander in chief, President Obama has also overseen a strategy in Afghanistan of expanded attacks on civilians in Afghanistan. As in Iraq under the Bush administration, this current phase of the war in Afghanistan is seeing more civilians killed than enemy combatants, because of the widespread use of weapons like helicopter gunships, aerial bombardment, fragmentation bombs, etc., as well as a tactic of night raids on housing compounds where insurgents are suspected of hiding--raids that frequently lead to the deaths of many women and children and innocent men. It is significant that even the recent execution-style slaying of nine students, aged 11-18, by US-led forces, has not led to an investigation or prosecution of an individual. Rather, the incident is being covered up and ignored, with the clear acquiescence of the White House and the leadership at the Pentagon.

It is also widely believed that under the command of Gen. Stanley McChrystal, who is known to have directed a large-scale death-squad operation in Iraq before moving to his current position, a similar death-squad campaign of assassination is being conducted now in Afghanistan--a campaign that like the notorious Phoenix Program in the 1960s in Vietnam, is almost certainly resulting in the deaths of many innocent Afghans.

Domestically, the president has continued to allow the policy of detention without trial of hundreds of captives in Guantanamo Bay and other prisons, including Bagram Airbase in Afghanistan, and his director of national security has even stated that it is the policy of this administration that American citizens deemed by the administration to be enemy combatants or terrorists may be targeted for summary execution. Such officially sanctioned state murder is a blatant violation of the Constitution's insistence that every American has a right to a presumption of innocence and to a trial by a jury of his or her peers.

The president has also continued and in some ways even expanded the Bush/Cheney administration's program of warrantless spying by the National Security Agency on the electronic communications of millions of Americans. A part of that program, the monitoring of communications of a now defunct Islamic charity, was just declared illegal by a federal judge in a case that was brought against the Bush/Cheney administration, but which continued to be defended by the current administration. There has not been a decision as yet by the Obama administration about whether to appeal that decision. While the case in question does not represent a crime by the Obama administration, it is clear that it only represents the very tip of the huge iceberg of domestic spying, and the administration's vigorous efforts to shut down this case or to win it are clear evidence that the NSA is continuing to do the same thing on a vast scale. In fact, the only reason this case even got to trial is because of a government error that resulted in a memo describing the monitoring being mailed inadvertently to the victims of the spying.

While we're at it, I would also suggest that there is amble evidence to call for the impeachment of Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, who appears, as head of the New York Federal Reserve, to have colluded in an effort to cover up a massive fraud at Lehman Brothers, and who has subsequently as Treasurer, participated in unprecedented giveaways of taxpayer funds to several of the country's largest banking institutions.

The above enumeration of criminal and Constitutional transgressions makes it clear that this president, like his predecessor, has, almost since his first day in office, continued down a road of criminal and unconstitutional behavior that threatens the survival of Constitutional government in the United States.

Let me state it simply: President Barack Obama, as well as Attorney General Eric Holder, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, and Treasury Secretary Geithner, should be impeached for war crimes and high crimes against the Constitution.

Of course, having watched the Democratic Congress shamelessly duck its solemn duty to initiate impeachment proceedings against President Bush, Vice President Cheney, and their criminal subordinates for two years, I have no illusions about that same Democratic Congress allowing an impeachment bill to be filed against this president.

["Well, I guess I’ll hold my nose and vote for the Democrats again.” ~ MC]


Having said that, I think it is important to at least make the point publicly that this president, like the one before, deserves to be impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors.

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/51158

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DAVE LINDORFF is a Philadelphia-area journalist. His latest book is "The Case For Impeachment" (St. Martin's Press, 2006). His work is available atwww.thiscantbehappening.net

39 comments:

  1. Michael- I replaced your OpEdNews link with the AfterDowningStreeet one. No need to give any traffic to KlownKall.

    Why did you add “Well, I guess I’ll hold my nose and vote for the Democrats again.” to Lindorff's article? Commentary should be identified, no?

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  2. I think that is Irish's comment on what Lindorff will do, Laudy but I'm not positive. Lindorf's a bit wishy washy even when he makes bold statements like this.

    Btw, to impeaching Barry Soetoro or BS as I like to think of him... wait ..odd isn't it? His initials for both of his names bring to mind nasty things don't they? BS & BO. I think that about sums it up !

    IMPEACH? Hell yea and definitely take Rahm & Timmy & Nancy with him and the rest of his fascist lobbyists for big pharma and banksters with them!

    We know it won't happen but it's nice to dream. Maybe Dave is a mole who is setting us up to see who wants the new king impeached so as to identify us as homegrown terrorists? That is the business they are in now. I guess it's too late to worry about that, eh?

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  3. Did someone mention Eat a Peach?

    Oh! It's "impeachment" Dave was talking about. No Dave, not this year, not the next, or the next, or the . . . how about a little fries with that fascism?

    Bad Barry! Now, go to your room.

    Impeachment's, which is off the table, is this before or after the invasion of Iran?

    Or until our country goes completely "Southbound?"

    Crank it up!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si759fiEx3c&feature=related

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  4. well, I clicked on the AfterDowningStreet link at the bottom of the article above, and it took me to OEN

    how weird is that?

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  5. claudia, it looks like the ADS link has been embedded with the OEN link.

    And, I'd extract the hold-my-nose comment entirely since Dave didn't write it.

    but that's this editor

    alternatively, brackets indicate speech by someone other than the original writer. it is common practice to id yourself inside the brackets, e.g.

    [Well, I guess I’ll hold my nose and vote for the Democrats again. ~ MC]

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  6. Sanctions on Iran first, then Impeachment. Maybe!

    Obama and Sarkozy want new sanctions against Iran 'in weeks'

    In weeks? Look at the expression on O's face? Oy! Vey. Yeah, how about a side order of Impeachment? To go!

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/richard-adams-blog/2010/mar/30/iran-sanctions-obama-sarkozy

    This for Patrick

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNhi8PoahPo&feature=related

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  7. First time that's ever happened! the text was correct but the underlying link didn't change. I fixed it again! :)

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  8. Done! thanks for the moral support

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  9. Forgive me, but I've had enough. I just want to go around slapping the piss out of the Lindorff's of this world.

    And all the idiots that say things such as, "well this health-care bill isn't perfect, but it's better than nothing", I want to slap them too.

    Honestly, there's a whole lot of people I'm fed-up with that I just want to whack up side the head. A lot of educated fools. A whole lot of them. People that should have seen the obvious, but for their blind faith in a system that for the past 100-odd years has been rotting from the inside out.

    But I can't, I haven't got the energy, and there's too many of them.

    Maybe I should be thankful he's finally seeing the light after only 14 months ... 14 months ... how many of us saw it 24 months ago? 24-years ago?

    God, I'm tired of this.

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  10. btw, my pops still gets Rob's newsletter and was surprised that such a 'Leftie' was calling for the impeachment of Obama.

    I said, because impeachment will never happen. It's a safe way to pretend to be Leftist to call for an action that is meaningless and will never happen anyway.

    my poor pops; he thinks I'm too cynical.

    lol

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  11. Lindorff is about as good a gatekeeper as there is. Swanson and a few others come real close to being as good as Lindorff but old Dave had me fooled for the longest time. And then I heard both Lindorff & Swanson both pull the emergency brake at a 9/11 conference I was attending online. They damned near broke the thing off, they pulled it so hard. That conference was about the best thing going for 9/11 truthers, so when it became obvious how so many prominent members of the movement were actually working to keep the movement in a stalemate, the level of discouragement was enormous. The impeachment thingy is just another ace of spades Lindorff and Co. carry around with them. Do ya'all remember how hard and how long we worked to get Dubya impeached? And I would dare say the case against Dubya was a better case than what anyone can have against this new clown.

    What Lindorff is doing here is called entertainment. His job is to keep the vast majority of the disgruntled populous from taking more effective measures such as ........, well, I'll refrain from going into detail of what my idea of effective is.

    If you get off on riding in a damned wheel like a guinea pig, with the same shit coming up, over and over again, you have to get off the wheel and look at gatekeepers for what they are. I'm sorry Dave, but if you were close enough, I'd smack you so damned hard, your head would be ringing for weeks. Why don't we all impeach the false Left instead? After all, they are the ones propping the damned puppet up.

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  12. Well said M and Curt. OEN, Huffpo, Common Dreams, Daily Kos, all filled with fake liberals who "catapult the propaganda" for the PTB. After my latest venture onto oen to see how rabid the true believers still are showed me that yes, the wimpy attack dogs are still there but sounding dumber and weaker than ever. They really sound like fools trying to defend the indefensible with no proof to back up their claims that this president is different than the last and that he's doing such a wonderful job. They still have the gall to act as if they are the ones with all the answers.

    The good news I found is that many of the former self identified obamabots have been deprogrammed and have seen the light and aren't buying it anymore. More than ever, they are talking third party. Leaving the creepy, pathetic little Kall boot licking worms like Leser, Tremlett and Sanchez looking like the sad little losers they truly are. Leser had the nerve to call me a sock puppet ! Yes, that's correct Steven Leser who actually not only is one but looks like one too.

    Perhaps there is "hope" albeit a little late. Liars and phonies and dumbasses are always exposed in the end by the light of truth. They will all get their comeuppance. Mark my words.

    And yes M, I'd like to personally slap each and every one of them silly but like you, I don' thave the energy and there are still way too many of them.

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  13. Dave is a brilliant writer. However, it is his job to codify the sheep, keeping them believing in this faux two party system. I too was fooled.

    Dave, who is merely a mollifier, has a better chance at winning the Nobel (war is) Peace Prize, than impeachment happening in America.

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  14. What is it about white middle-class fair-weather lefties? Why are they so shallow, gullible and intrinsically craven? Why do they lick the hand (or nether regions) of authority at any opportunity? They drive me up the wall.

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  15. Me too laudy. It seems to be the antithesis of what the left are SUPPOSED to be which is anti-authoritarian ... right?

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  16. i got lots of energy, i'll smack em

    You guys are the best. I don't comment here much because it all gets said so well.

    So are we all working for or becoming our local Green option?

    Munich...eat a peach indeed. Love me some bros!

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  17. A conversation in my email group recently pointed out the confusion around definitions of economic and political systems. Evidently the bs in the media has had a bigger effect than I thought.

    I'm glad you used "anti-authoritarian" which is right on target! The push to totalitarian controls is growing and we need to call them by their true names! Forget all the left/right crap and let's nail them for the dictatorial creeps they are.

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  18. Good stuff here. Thanks Munich for the AB cut and OL intro.

    This ole man sat front stage at the West Palm Beach Auditorium in 72 and we gave Dickey the bone he lit up and toked before belting out the fabulous instrumental "Jessica"

    And for Mister M, I sat in a bar in Nawlins in 1980 with Greg Allman and a dozen others. He called me an asshole before leaving. I think it was about comment I made regarding liking Norton bikes as I had just bought a commando 85 recently. I guess he was Harley all the way since brother Duane died on one too. I had gotten a snootful that day and probably was obnoxiously drunk.

    Can't remember the bar but it was on Bourbon Street and was undergound/basement with stone walls.

    Good to see you again camusrebel.

    Dave Lindorff ~ no comment. It's not worth it. Liberal social climber reaching for a pulitzer.





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  19. Rady,

    Hope is the view of the present to the future. Cynical is the same view when you get there and look back. ~ Old Chinese Liberal Proverb.

    :) - sum ting wong with pwogwess

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  20. Love that question & comment Laudy.

    Liberals want to own your mind, likely because they have lost theirs.

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  21. I'm sure you all must have seen this by now, if not, well ... I don't know how to prepare someone for this, just make sure you're not holding anything hot, heavy, or sharp, for fear of any involuntary moves that might occur upon hearing what this congressman says ...

    ... and know, that even the Gods have no defense against what you are about to witness ...

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20001567-503544.html

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  22. Liberals have a compulsion to change and an obsession to share it. We just dont want that totalitarian disorder.

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  23. Underground? In New Orleans? Not saying it can't happen, there are buildings here with basements, but mostly modern ones.

    Well, and I thought that back in the day, I had hit them all ... guess I quit drinking too early on.

    Next week is French Quarter Festival, they've started up the Wednesday concerts, and at the end of the month it's 2 weeks of Jazz Festival. The line-ups are insane. Went into hock for my tickets, figuring this will be my last one.

    This city is insane, and most likely the hardest to be an activist in, too many distractions.

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  24. Yeah, the scripting or cue cards for that episode of C-Span theatre must have been lost.

    They were forced to Ad-lib

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  25. It was close to the sheraton. just downstairs. I was buzzed then. I'd love to go back and see how it has changed post K. It was always my contention that it was the freindliest city I ever knew.

    I saw your lineups last year. If they are better this year it will be a lollipalooza.
    Why your last Festival????

    I quit drinking fifteen years ago and it was the best decision I ever made.

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  26. Everyone, if you'd like to break away from the grind for a brief moment, check out John Nemeth who is playing right now live at the Hog's Breath Saloon in Key West.

    http://www.hogsbreath.com/hogcam/rawbarcam.htm

    He's really good, but I don't this is the band he records with.

    John has been nominated for a Blues Music Award and he needs your ...
    In addition to John Nemeth, a who's who of Blues musicians support Bishop on the album, including B.B. King, Warren Haynes, Derek Trucks, George Thorogood, ...

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  27. Man, you must have been buzzed.

    I worked at two of the premier music clubs, in the mid-70's, to mid-80's. Buzzed was a way of life. I didn't see the sun for all those years. People tell me I had a good time.

    My last fest ... who knows, hope not, but, I can't imagine with the economy going further south that either one, I won't be able to afford it, I couldn't afford this one, or two, because of the economy, they won't be able to put it on next year.

    But I thought that last year.

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  28. Tremlett, that strawberry dangling Leser-lapdog has admitted to trolling this site. I'm almost tempted to invite him to read more and learn a little while trolling, but alas, I know he too is stuck in the L/R paradigm, going in circles, unable to escape the miserable illusion he himself has created and defended. Tremlett, you low life Leser-lapdog, don't read any of the articles here beyond this one. I'm afraid you might develop an intellectual conflict for which there is no cure except to admit that all you have been taught all your life and all you have been defending by repeating the lies you have been told is wrong. We don't want you to get hurt, kido, so move along now, go back to your Leserdaddy, go back to licking his groin while staring at your favorite picture of your daddy Krall and his collection of neoliberal shills. P.S., you do know you're the laughingstock of OEN, right? Nobody, but absolutely nobody there takes you serious. I personally think it's a combination of that smirk on your face and that ridiculous strawberry, oh, and add the silly shite you write. What a loser. Make haste! Go now before your daddy finds out you've been here. After all, he does apply guilt by association on a daily basis.

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  29. I think I ate my weight in Raw Oysters and Crawfish Boudin everytime I stopped there on my way from Houston to Miami.
    Dodging I-10 potholes with a hangover was the closest thing to a hell
    I can remember.

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  30. Well Folks. I have been a bit busy with a series of 12 hour shifts. I am a Burn Specialty Nurse and we have just entered "Burn Season")
    I have also been very active in political work, including the building and preparation of my own campaign for US Congress here. I am "going public" in my running against the "progressive" Democrat Keith Ellison next week.

    I want to thank all of you for your comments and good work here in COTO Land..

    Oh and Mr M, I agree 100% with your thoughts on the chickenshit gatekeeper Dave Lindorff.. Lets see how he swings when election time gets near. Oh and I am so sorry to have added the Op Ed Snooze link.

    BUT, it must be said that if a chickenshit like Lindorff is talking Impeachment against O-BOMBER then things are starting to shift, to change just a bit..

    That was the reason for posting the article here... I knew you guys would see thru Lindorff's shit right away. In fact I had worked for years with Impeach For Peace had publicly challenged Dave Lindorff to push Obama to come out in support of Impeachment of Bush or loose Lindorff's public support.

    As you all guessed it never happened.

    None the less, this is an indicator.

    I remain hopeful

    viva la resistance

    Oh and Puddy

    THANK YOU for fixing my article so that it fits right... I forgot the whole intro article, read rest thing until after I hit send...

    Puddy, you are too cool

    All you COTO are.

    LOLOL

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  31. It would be the just about as good as it could be if we had a COTO member in the belly-of-the-beast.

    Oh, what a stomach-ache you would give!

    Let me know what I can do to help, money is scarce, but my talent, that it is, is at your disposal.

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  32. ...before I get myself all down
    I jump up and kick the door down






    ...walk down on the street
    And leave my blues at home

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  33. Excellent rant against the vile denizens of the oen sludge pit. And you're right, both Tremlett and Steven the Leser are the laughable but not lovable losers who inhabit it's deepest darkest depths. It's so funny how they surface occasionally to bolster the others ridiculous opinions and assertions of which neither can back up with fact. They aren't even a funny comedy team.

    Wonder how often they "lurk" here? My guess is quite a lot. They seem to know a lot about what coto is doing.

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  34. The gatekeepers, shills and reactionaries are having a field day. Let's hope the charade wears thin for the drones, it seems so obvious!

    Excerpt from: Remembering Obama
    ________________________________________
    Reflections on Race, Class, Empire, and the First Black President (and a Comment by Allan Nairn*)
    By Paul Street http://www.zcommunications.org/remembering-obama-by-paul-street :


    …….. As the brilliant Left author, filmmaker, and columnist John Pilger noted last July 4th in San Francisco: “The clever young man who recently made it to the White House is a very fine hypnotist, partly because it is indeed exciting to see an African American at the pinnacle of power in the land of slavery. However, this is the 21st century, and race together with gender and even class can be very seductive tools of propaganda. For what is so often overlooked and what matters, I believe, above all, is the class one serves. George W. Bush’s inner circle from the State Department to the Supreme Court was perhaps the most multiracial in presidential history. It was PC par excellence. Think Condoleezza Rice, Colin Powell. It was also the most reactionary”. [17]

    Pilger anticipated this important insight with a powerful and all-too accurate prediction at the end of May 2008: "What is Obama’s attraction to big business? Precisely the same as Robert Kennedy’s [in 1968]. By offering a ‘new,’ young and apparently progressive face of the Democratic Party – with the bonus of being a member of the black elite – he can blunt and divert real opposition. That was Colin Powell’s role as Bush’s secretary of state. An Obama victory will bring intense pressure on the US antiwar and social justice movements to accept a Democratic administration for all its faults. If that happens, domestic resistance to rapacious America will fall silent.” [18]

    Nearly two years later and more than fourteen months into the not-so antiwar Obama presidency, the “peace movement” inside Superpower’s “homeland” is a feeble joke. Some of its leading organizations (most notably the laughable co-opted group MoveOn.org) have subordinated themselves almost beyond belief to the first black president [19] and through him to the U.S. foreign policy establishment. There is little if any meaningful opposition to Obama’s corporatist record and agenda. The often pathetic so-called radical Left feels compelled to accept the supposedly “progressive” administration (“for all its faults”) and to defend it against vicious and preposterous attacks from the significantly racist, “socialism”-charging Right. MoveOn even enlisted in the cause of Obama and the corporate Democrats’ health “reform” by picketing the occasionally progressive Congressman Dennis Kucinich’s office to pressure him to go against his initial promise to reject a bill that did not contain a public insurance option. [20]

    Unpleasant thought it may be to acknowledge, Obama’s race is part of the story behind this sorry surrender. As Aurora Levins Morales noted in Z Magazine in April of 2008:

    “This election is about finding a CEO capable of holding domestic constituencies in check as they are furthered disenfranchised and [to] make them feel that they have a stake in the military aggressiveness that the ruling class believes is necessary. Having a black man and a white woman run helps to obscure the fact that …decline of empire is driving the political elite to the right. Both [Obama and Hillary Clinton] represent very reactionary politics…Part of the cleverness of having such candidates is the fact that they will be attacked in ways that make oppressed people feel compelled to protect them.”[21]………

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  35. This was so obvious to see why the CFR-TC-Bilderberg prepped Barry for duty.
    Change! Just team and team colors changed as we see now.

    Plus the committee get's their hate thought crime bill through and it will cause the dominos to fall all along amendment row.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015

    >

    > U.S. reverses stance on treaty to regulate arms trade

    >

    > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States reversed policy on Wednesday and said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms sales as long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said gave every nation a veto.

    >

    > The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State Department, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush's administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that national controls were better.

    >

    > On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All Firearms in the United States. The Obama administration intends to force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process in Congress.

    >

    > Once the US Government signs these international treaties, all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments. These are laws that have been developed and promoted by organizations such as the United Nations and individuals such as George Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are designed and intended to lead to the complete ban and confiscation of all firearms.

    >

    > The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of gun control that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before US citizens even understand what has happened. Obama can appear before the public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any legislation (in the United States) that will lead to new gun control laws, while cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton is committing the US to international treaties and foreign gun control laws. Does that mean Obama is telling the truth?

    >

    > What it means is that there will be no publicized gun control debates in the media or votes in Congress. We will wake up one morning and find that the United States has signed a treaty that prohibits firearm and ammunition manufacturers from selling to the public. We will wake up another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any transfer of firearm ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that requires US citizens to deliver any firearm they own to the local government collection and destruction center or face imprisonment.

    >

    > This is not a joke nor a false warning. As sure as government health care will be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever means necessary, so will gun control.

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  36. btw, just on gun rights, which are getting much attn in the Left blogosphere lately (I've been arguing about it on Buzz Flash)...

    PEW just mentioned this

    "The Supreme Court is expected to rule in the next few months on the constitutionality of a 28-year-old Chicago law prohibiting handgun ownership in that city."

    I was doing some gun research, and learned that this year's latest survey on public attitudes shows white women favor gun rights by a rise in 17 points over previous annual surveys.

    now, arguably, of course, statistics can be manipulated and often are so that policy wonks can make their point.

    the important issue is to follow that Chicago gun rights case before SCOTUS right now.

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  37. and, Patrick, i'm so grateful you posted this Reuters info; i will certainly follow that lead to include in my next 2A article

    due out once SCOTUS rules

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  38. guns-n-stuff?

    remember http://www.opednews.com/Poll/Johnny-Got-His-Gun-by-Tony-Forest-080818-443.html

    ?

    I grew up with guns, was a soldier and ......well, you know. I know you know. And I know too. Just wanted to remind us.

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