Thursday, December 10, 2009

Conspiracy Theory w/Jesse Ventura - 9/11

This was just posted online.  I haven't had a chance to watch it yet.  I just wanted to get it up so we could all view it and weigh in on it.







Part 2 etc below







Part 3







Part 4





28 comments:

  1. This program would be better presented if it didn't use such a cheesy format. Other than that, I'm glad to see this information get out no matter what the format.

    For those of us that have studied 9/11 there is little here that we didn't already know, and they barely scratch the surface. Nothing is covered about Shanksville or Pentagon.

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  2. See my comments on the series at the bottom of the HAARP article comments thread.

    Jesse interviews Dave Lindorff? Dave's good. He's very good. But I once caught him balking at the truth. He actually exercised some real gatekeeping, imho, and it pissed me off. It happened one weekend during a panel of "experts" discussing 9/11. Swanson was on the panel, I think he was the monitor. At one point, good old Dave closed a gate on it all and I'll never forget that. I was in on the live chat the panel had set up, btw and I wasn't alone in thinking Dave had copped out.

    When I watch Jesse's shows, two now, and I apply what I know about military intelligence (from reading only), I smell a couple of rats. 98% truth, 2% misleading disinfo or simly 1% discrediting. But one thing holds true, the public has only seen and heard 5% and if Jesse's show gives them another 20%, it can only be seen as progress.

    Why is the 9/11 episode so short (compared to episode uno)? 9/11 is THE mother of all. It deserves at least 3 solid episodes. Hell, it deserves a continuous series!

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  3. Rodriguez, Jones, Lindorff, 3 strikes, your out. Forget Malone. The idea of hijackers being in the cockpits before the flights took off is new to me. But then again, I haven't been paying attention for a few years.

    In my opinion, if I had engineered the shows episode 2, I would've sent the audience into a tailspin with the flight patterns of UA175 and AA77 and a tour of NORAD and its capabilities prior to 9/11 vs. on 9/11 + a healthy dose of cio bono / Caspian Sea, Natural Gas, Oil and the big chess board.

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  4. I agree Curt. 9/11 needs at least it's own mini series to do it half justice. But as you said, and as I feel about the show so far in general, it's mainstream cable tv and it's reaching over a million viewers.

    I'm thrilled this kind of stuff is going out across the airwaves and waking up some of the sleeping sheeple. Jesse has a lot of fans.

    We truthers already know this stuff but the average American doesn't have a clue. This can only be a good thing to increase the movement's numbers.

    I was surprised to see Dave Lindorff on the show. I've only seen that little picture on oped. He looks better on tv. I'm disappointed that he could be a gatekeeper. I usually agree with what he writes even though he's not as radical as coto.

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  5. BTW.. all four parts were on the one video I originally posted. A tag came up in the lower right corner telling you to click to go to part II, III etc..

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  6. I agree with M. Cheesy for certain. Hokey! But Lindorff and Jones were good.

    They scratched the tip, but never got to Larry "Pull it" Silverstein. Marvin Bush security Kroll, MOSAAD arrests. etc. etc. etc.

    This just made it look like Loch Ness. But the for the idiots that don't know 7, theres no hope.

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  7. My take is if this program gets picked up for a 2nd season, we'll see more 9/11 episodes.

    I keep hoping of course we don't have to wait that long before things break.

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  8. I thought it as fantastic.

    I mean, sure for us it was ho hum and well what about (insert favorite theory or fact here) not being covered but...
    It ain't about us. It's about he sheeple. Remember, we are all sheeple at some level or other.

    To quote the Matrix Jessie Ventura just said to the sheeple
    Take the red pill and I take you to Wonderland and you see just how far down the rabbit hole goes."

    As ann aside, my son told me that his girlfriend just called him and said

    "Oh my God Sean. I think your Dad might be right about 9-11."


    My son's immediate response

    "So did you hear about Building Seven?"

    This is BEFORE the show BTW.

    That's my boy.

    //:-)>--------

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  9. Exactly my point too Irish ! Picture your son's g/f's reaction times thousands and you have a real awakening to 9/11 truth.

    We all know sensationalism sells. That's why the title "conspiracy theory" works. It draws 'em in with Jesse Ventura as host and keeps them glued for the next installment.

    Even though we all are way beyond anything they'll touch on in this show, the general public is in the dark and about to have the light turned on ;)

    I hope the show keeps getting the big numbers.

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  10. I'm sorry to be so critical. Maybe if Jesse started with the fraud of the WWF and the SEAL Black Ops he was involved with it would help.

    Then if he did one on the corruption and political crap he was exposed to that would help as well.
    He is a great figure to spearhead this with younger to twentysomethings though.

    I can sit through "Predator" multiple times as it illustrates the great connection between the paradigm of the COMMITTEE pitting these wars against imaginary ideologies while the COMMITTEE itself being the predator, holds all the technology, WMD and flase flag agendas. The merging of the factions. CIA, Military and Enemy join forces to defeat the invisible enemy.

    * The Whistleblower~(CIA) Carl Weathers
    * Recognizing the invisible enemy~ Bill Duke
    * Coming together of adversaries to see the real picture ~ Elpedia Carrillo
    * The courage to face this enormously daunting mission to fight and expose this invisible and powerful enemy ~ Arnold
    * The simple ingenuity that ultimately wins out ~ natures mud and sticks
    * The lengths of the enemy to destroy any and all when failure is eminent and do it laughlingly ~ pure evil

    I like to think that the final scene when Dutch is in the "CHOPPA" and staring into space, that he is reeling to the history of all his false perceptions and the reality of his new found knowledge.

    How did this comment end up as movie review? Sleep Deprivation!

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  11. How could anyone not know about WTC7? My addiction began the evening of 9/11. I started my own blog not long after that and along with friends with the same addiction, we screamed our heads off and spread the word as far and wide as humanly possible. When word of 7 hit us, we focussed on 7. And we were just a tiny group, one of thousands. Larger sites were doing the same thing. We got the word out and don't ask how. I kind of think it was near impossible to NOT hear our message, no matter where you were. A highschool friend and family member received one of my many e-mails in which I tried to make it easy on those who had a hard time believing it (I sent many, and to all, again and again until a few relationships broke and then I sent more, resulting in a break of communications with many friends and family members who all thought I was sick in the head for thinking IT WAS AN INSIDE JOB!) replied one last time and said "I saw what happened, I saw it live on TV!! So stop trying to tell me what I saw because I know what I saw!!" He couldn't swallow the pill. It kept coming up. I tried to force feed his ass, to no avail. I eventually gave up. A good handful years later, last summer to be specific, we met up for the first time in 15 years in the Sonora Desert. We hugged the way big boys do and he looked at me and said...."you didn't tell me about WTC7, you asshole!" I'm sure I did, many times over but somewhere else down the line, it hit him. "You're right, bro, it was an inside job". All I could say at that moment was ....."you're pullin' my leg, Dave".

    For the life of me, I don't know how or why we have such vast differences in perception. But one thing I've learnt since 9/11.....it has zero to do with intelligence.

    Keep plugging away, my friends. Keep plugging away.

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  12. I have always said

    Building Seven is the lynch pin.

    My son and I showed his girlfriend the BBC video clip of Building Seven being declared down. Press release went out 20 minutes early I guess.

    Oh and guess what, she want to be a Nurse.

    ROFLMAO

    Oh the irony, the irony.

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  13. DOH! just a minor glitch for the Homers watching Fox, Michael.

    The all too early MSM release to EU on the demolition of 7 was stunning. Add to this the other hundred inconvenient truths that "Jesse the body" missed.

    Boxcutter WMD's ~ (for use when you are out of yellowcake uranium)

    Vigilant Guardian Games ~ whats real, whats chatter????

    Pentagon accounting assasination - Dov's Dough!

    SEC 7 collapse - Wallstreet/Bankers win double header (inside trading scheme and evidence destruction)

    Silverstein take on "Pull it" - (must have been to his secretary in regards to getting his insurance file)

    Bush/Kroll ~ Marvins East Asian Garden

    The stronger than Titanium Passport ~ (not even a black box can cut it)

    Pennsylvania Pogrom - 3 minute massacre

    Mossad Moving Company ~ starving artists or dancers, what are they?

    Anthrax false flag ~ Tom Brokaw and Dan Rather must die!!

    Just a few of my favorites. Let's hope Jesse finds his way through these and the 40 other coincidences.

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  14. How can anyone not know?

    The answer to that my friend is most likely more complex than my street level psychology can handle. But I have a hunch that it has something to do with a combination of mass hypnosis and mind control, willful denial, fear, diet, and a few other things I may not be aware of.

    It may be that for some it has to come to them after they can make the excuse that they came up with the revelation by themselves. You most likely did share 7 with your friend, but it was hard for him to admit he was wrong, it had to sink in, until he saw 7 again and he ceased that as an excuse to come around.

    And for whatever reason a small percentage of people are somewhat or completely immune to the ruse.

    But certainly WTC7 is one of the more stunning bullets in the 9/11 belt. And at least they did show that several times. I was over a friends house watching CT and watched my friends reaction as much as I watched the show, and you could see from their reaction that it was making those wheels turn as they watched 7 come down.

    Now how many newbies where watching, one can only guess, but I can't imagine it was more than a 1/3rd. But that's okay. I'll take 600,000 at one time.

    Hell, I'm happy my paper is reaching 50,000 each month. My new strip, called: Conspiracy Nut (no, I'm not kidding) came out today and it's all about 9/11 and trashing MSM. And I'll be happy if 100 of the readers actually go further to research references made, ecstatic if 1,000 do.

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  15. How can people still not see? It's easy, I can give you 2 quick examples. One Brother-in-law paid $500 to hear Dick Cheney growl and recently relished sending his son to the Marines to "defend" our way of life. The other Brother-in-law watches Fox Noise 24-7 and believes corporate criminals will be the only people who can "save" us. It's called blind faith and there are plenty of practitioners.

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  16. hotrod I hear ya. A woman at work was proudly exclaiming her grandson was joining the military because he needed "direction" in his life. I told her his life would be directed alright.... to a wheelchair, psychiatrist or body bag......

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  17. The no jets scrambled had me running around the office that morning like a nut saying.. "why arent they scrambling jets to intercept these planes!" No one else seemed focused on this at all. I couldn't figure out why they didn't think that odd.

    NO ONE i know and i mean NO ONE saw bldg 7 fall that evening but me. I didn't understand why they showed it only once on 9/11 and never again yet we were treated to the twin towers falling endlessly over and over and over in one giant tv loop.

    I thought I had lost my mind until I found others talking about 7 online and found out just what was housed there. That's when I fell down the rabbit hole and haven't been above ground since....

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  18. Hotrods another sufferer like us to did not get the NWO antidote to reality. Welcome fellow inflicted!

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  19. ***** Movie, Munich. Love it. One of the best casts ever pulled together. Busfield was perfect in the role.

    Favorite:
    Kevin Costner (Ray): Don't we need a catcher?
    Ray Liotta (Shoeless Joe Jackson): Not if you get it near the plate we don't.

    And when Ray says " Hey.....Dad? Do you want to have a catch? , it's blubbering time.

    "COTO, go the distance"

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  20. I saw "field of dreams" when it was in the theaters and then again once on video and loved it. But wow, you guys have the dialogue memorized.. that's pretty damn impressive !

    It truly is a heartwarming kind of film. I'm going to neflix now to order it to watch again ;)

    "go the distance"? Patrick, now that reminds me of another movie near and dear to any Philly homers heart.

    Hey Munich I can hear the Rocky theme playin' in the background.. You up to a run up the Art Museum steps? Perhaps Patrick and the rest of the cotocrew will join us...........Our theme song?

    Trying hard now
    it's so hard now
    trying hard now

    Getting strong now
    won't be long now
    getting strong now

    Gonna fly now
    flying high now
    gonna fly, fly, fly...





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  21. Fond memories of "Cuff and Link" JG. I miss Burgess.

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  22. Those turtles are probably still kickin'. I remember reading a long while back that they can live 70 or more years. Wonder if Sly will still be making Rocky movies when they reach their golden years..lol
    I was a fan of Burgess Meredith too.

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  23. Burgess Meredith

    Saw him in a number of shows long prior to Rocky. Old old stuff I watched with my Dad. Sure do miss him.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burgess_Meredith

    Holy shit....

    Filmography

    * Winterset (1936)-debut
    * There Goes the Groom (1937)
    * Spring Madness (1938)
    * Idiot's Delight (1939)
    * Of Mice and Men (1939)
    * Castle on the Hudson (1940)
    * It Was a Wonderful Life (1940)
    * Second Chorus (1940)
    * Tom, Dick and Harry (1941)
    * That Uncertain Feeling (1941)
    * Street of Chance (1942)
    * The Story of G.I. Joe (1945)
    * A Walk in the Sun (1945) (narration)
    * Magnificent Doll (1946)
    * The Diary of a Chambermaid (1946)
    * Mine Own Executioner (1947)
    * On Our Merry Way (1948)
    * Golden Arrow (1949)
    * The Man on the Eiffel Tower (1950)
    * Joe Butterfly (1957)
    * Man on the Run (1958)
    * Advise and Consent (1962)
    * The Kidnappers (1964)
    * In Harm's Way (1965)
    * Madame X (1966)
    * Batman (1966)
    * A Big Hand for the Little Lady (1966)
    * Torture Garden (1967)
    * Hurry Sundown (1967)
    * Skidoo (1968)
    * Stay Away, Joe (1968)
    * The Reivers (1969)
    * Mackenna's Gold (1969)
    * Debrief: Apollo 8 (1969) (narrator)
    * There Was a Crooked Man... (1970)
    * Such Good Friends (1971)
    * A Fan's Notes (1972)
    * The Day of the Locust (1975)
    * The Hindenburg (1975)
    * Burnt Offerings (1976)
    * Rocky (1976)
    * The Sentinel (1977)
    * Foul Play (1978)
    * Magic (1978)
    * Rocky II (1979)
    * When Time Ran Out (1980)
    * Clash of the Titans (1981)
    * True Confessions (1981)
    * Rocky III (1982)
    * Wet Gold (1984) Made for TV
    * Santa Claus: The Movie (1985)
    * G.I. Joe: The Movie (1987)
    * Rocky V (1990)
    * Grumpy Old Men (1993)
    * Camp Nowhere (1994)
    * Tall Tale (1995) - Old Man (uncredited)
    * Grumpier Old Men (1995)

    Television work

    * Batman (as The Penguin)
    * Search as V.C.R Cameron (1972-1973)
    * Those Amazing Animals (co-host with Jim Stafford and Priscilla Presley)
    * Faerie Tale Theatre: Thumbelina
    * The Twilight Zone (four separate episodes)
    * Tales of Tomorrow The Great Silence - 1953
    * The Return of Captain Nemo (as Prof. Waldo Cunningham) - 1976
    * The Monkees (Cameo as The Penguin)
    * Gloria (as Dr. Adams, Gloria Bunker Stivic's boss, 1982-1983)

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  24. I'll always remember him as the Penguin.

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  25. He was a perfect penguin. My favorite tv appearance by him was on Twilight Zone. An episode called "time enough at last". He was a very good character actor.

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  26. Some spare moment you can find this life and childhood misery uplifting. Like Steve Allen and others who were so traumatized by their upbringings and how they used their enormous talents and strengths to weather and conceal their incredibly tough childhoods. Just two of many tragic cases.

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  27. purrrr ...

    I'm sorry to say it, but
    the reveilation of the method
    works by showing the victims
    the truth, but the victims can't do anything
    about it so they repress the fear and anger
    in their subconscious. The Stockholm syndrome
    comes into play along with conformity pressure. The programmers also supply the social psychically excepted reality (MSM) giving the ego a gate to avoid the pain of cognition. For the committee this is a very dangerous move to play at this time.

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