I went to the only supermarket in town this morning to get tobacco http://www.supersfoods.com/ they serve rural communities with overpriced crap. When I was paying for My purchase the clerk asked Me for My drivers license so i says "what are You a traffic cop?" . "No" she replied "its new regulations". So being a troublemaker by nature I says "what if I dont have a license?" She then summoned the manager and I asked him " preparations for the mark of the beast?" He began to shake sorta like he was having a seizure or something "its the rules" "give Me Your date of birth" he says, so i did. "this will be the last time I can do this" he says. I got My tobacco and headed for the car before the cops could arrive.
When the license is swiped we will be added to a database of "smokers" and "drinkers" who will be denied Medicare services in the future for our un-politically correct behaviour. Also our purchases will be tracked in real time to develop behavioural projections and other Orwellian\anti-christ control gizmos. Anybody got tobacco seed ?
outrageous.
ReplyDeleteI continue to get invites to join facebook from absolute strangers
guess they don't have enough info on me for their database, eh?
Weird you should mention "tobacco seed". I just finished watching the movie "Somersby " and in it Richard Gere came back from town with "tobacco seeds"....He got a damn good crop of tobaccy from them too! Of course, this was right after the civil war when the ground wasn't contaminated.............
ReplyDeleteBtw, I don't smoke but I'm told a woman who is 50 years old gets carded when she buys her cigarettes here...so, yea, it's the start of something BIG
Since you mention it, i have tobacco seeds. Grew my first crop this year from some seeds i bought from a guy on ebay selling virginia second generation seeds. Now i can say mine are third generation... and there's a fine bumper crop of seeds on these here. It's a beautiful thing... and definitely non-additive, except, on occasion, some natural mint for a refreshing menthol flavor. Again, though, totally natural. And this tobacco tastes fab. Just pick the leaves and cure for three weeks, shred and roll... baby roll.
ReplyDeletewow! I never thought of growing my own!
ReplyDeleteI'm gonna look into this
Aw shucks Rady... here's my email -shoot me a line w/your address and i'll send you some... they're proven.
ReplyDeleteits about time 2 at comcast dot net
Yeah, and i am not stupid enough to grow them on my own place, and i am counting that the pole-ice will not be able to tell a tobaccy plant from a cabbage.
Although, i would grow them on my place, but i live in a tin can community (mobile home park)... by choice... why would i want something they could take or tax away from me? I'd rather be considered poor by a bunch of braniacs who only value people with nice cars, big homes, power jobs,fancy clothes, hairdos and expensive shoes... in short, the empty shells who would socially shun Jesus.
ReplyDeletewe got the room... I might have to clear out some butterfly bushes (which other folks call weeds) ... lol.
ReplyDeleteGotta have our pollinators!
well, there's still plenty of room over the fence
I'll trade You some homade wine for some seeds.
ReplyDeleteWell, didn't think i was going to start something here, but i've been telling my friends that the seeds of these is where we may prosper, believe me, we are modest in our needs and prosper to us is a far cry from the mainstream definition of prosper, and because we don't want to sell the tobacco... we smoke that!!
ReplyDeleteI've seen you posting around here for a spell, so i think you are trustable... Rady, can you back this guy up? Email addy is above if so.
yeah, korn is totally cool
ReplyDeletebtw, not sure ship ping wine ac ross sta te lines is le gal
ReplyDeleteRight... and he would be getting the poor end of the bargain cuz wine will be spendy to ship.
ReplyDeleteHay KornIsKIng... just send me you email... i will do you a solid.
We have issues Rady. Email me.
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This is what you deleted from:
ReplyDeletehttp://coto2.wordpress.com/2011/08/11/clarke-911-cia-recruit-hijacker/#comment-19200
You tell me it is not civil discourse...??? WTF?
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TV channels which, under the leadership of their respective Governments, have manufactured false information to lead to war, are guilty of "crimes against peace", as defined by the relevant UN General Assembly resolutions in the aftermath of World War II [2]. The journalist-propagandists should be considered even more culpable than the military who perpetrated war crimes or crimes against humanity, to the extent that none of these crimes would have been possible without the one that preceded them: the "crime against peace."
“Journalists who engage in war propaganda must be held accountable”, by Thierry Meyssan, Voltaire Network, 16 August 2011
Albury Smith, this is your moniker, and whether it is your real name or not you can be identified by your IP addresses and located.
Since you haven't the imagination to conceive that the world can change in an instant, and is coming to some large convulsion you leave yourself open to rupture - to charges of crimes against humanity for your persistent and relentless pursuit of collaboration with a criminal regime.
You view the term "shill" as funny, as some sort of joke, and don't comprehend the seriousness of the crime of collaboration which the word "shill" represents.
Under these terms you are considered a "journalist" - one working for a criminal aggressor state, whether paid or as a volunteer, you remain culpable.
As it has been pointed out to you in the last two threads on COTO, you have made yourself infamous. You will not go unnoticed should the time come, and it very well may, that this system falls apart and those who have contributed to the crimes by such boosterism as yourself have bathed yourself in will indeed be sought out for justice.
As safe as you may feel in your little cocoon of delusion now, things are coming to a head. And I know there must be many like myself who will make it a point to press for your indictment when the opportunity arises.~Willy Whitten
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Fear the Phacebook and a twitter heart attack. Know elgoog for the mirror has three phaces. Dandy-Walkers delight.
ReplyDeleteKorn is King... well, i am a bit slow on the uptake, but i do catch on... eventually. I just noticed you are the progenitor of this article, and i've read your posts before. So, of course, send me your address at the above email address and i will happily send you some tobaccy seeds.
ReplyDeleteVery cool barter item on a local level... i'm excited !!
I got mine. Tobacco is medicine for committee disease> Get your herbs and spices too. Everyone needs cinnamon and alfalfa too.
ReplyDeleteI was just reading up on how to grow, harvest and cure tobacco. It says you cure it for at least a year and up to 6!!!
ReplyDeletenot sure I'll be around in 5 or 6 years
I would find a different reference. My son looked it up and got a site that said four weeks... we were anxious and only waited three. But the stuff was strong and tasted good like a cigarette should.
ReplyDeleteBest price up here, upstate NY, for American Spirit 100% non additive cigarettes, roll your own, costs $21.50 for a 5.29 oz. can. But the pole-ice are getting hinky with the reservations and are beginning to pull over people who drive through the towns and the indians, while putting on a strong battle, have no choice but to raise their prices to battle the beast.
I think it prudent to think ahead in these matters... it matters. Herbs -check, spices -check... gotta get on the cinnamon thing. Garlic is so easy to plant but you can't get the bulbs from most stores anymore... they are irradiating them and the cloves will not take.
You better be around Rady !
ReplyDeleteYeah Rady... i'm guessing you'll be popping champagne corks at the end of this nightmare... i suspect we all will be. 1,000 years of peace... 400+ year life spans. Rock on !! I know i'm in it to win it.
ReplyDeletehmmmmm... i hit the reply button to add to Jersey's comment... didn't turn up that way though.
ReplyDeleteJG -- I have to say
ReplyDeleteI HATE the pic
can't you draw evil eyebrows or something on her?
lol
that is hellery right?
but, well, you know... I've been smoking for over 40 years and they chemtrail the shit out of this place
ReplyDeleteCamel is my brand and fine by me. What is not is this ID thing.
ReplyDeleteI get my ciggies at a Swifty gas station by the carton.
No one has blinked before selling me ciggies, at 64, it would strike me as real suspicious that anyone would.
I always pay cash. For everything but my monthly bills and those by check. I don't buy the "green" gag of "not using paper"...they want the digital trail of everything you do is what that game is.
But it looks like this game of duck and weave is going to get more complex with each passing month...
End Game is just a few months away. I guess big preps are in the worx.
Ah,,,viva Sapatam or whatever, fuck the New world Order...
And gawblessmarkah
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See how this all works? We have these hosted blogs, such as Word Press, with “Terms of Service,” and a quick reading of them, they seem 'reasonable'...until something comes up that can be seen in need of “interpreting.”
ReplyDeleteLike this row over my comments to Albury Smith. It can be “interpreted” as a “personal threat,” it is claimed, but not by any sane reading of the construction of the piece. The stretch to read that in such a way, means ignoring 95 percent of what I said, and focusing on my opening lines in zero context.
But of course we must realize, as has come home hard and Kafkaesque on me tonight, that we are dealing with an aspect of the larger overall system that is totally psychotic. So of course the possibility, indeed the probability that some attorney versed in Newspeak Legall-Pigally hallucinatory headspace, could very well “interpret” the post to mean a threat to look up Smith and do him harm. This is absolutely false but can be magically changed into “truth” with a twist of some surreal argument.
Orwellian, Kafkaesque, the Land of Oz...yes, we live in Wonderland, and are under the whims of the Red Queen. We are renters on the web, and that means our free speech is compromised by the ACTUAL threat of being railroaded for spurious reason. It is a bizarre variation on the theme that the software you buy isn't really yours. You don't buy it to own – no these new magic 'products' all come with strings attached tying you to long wordy 'agreements'...all seemingly rational like the seemingly rational agreement for the rental of the blog space. And this is all part of squeezing us and pressuring us into a wedged space. “Kettled” as is done in real-world situations. You think you are free until there suddenly appears a roadblock, and you are surrounded by the goon squad either physically on the streets, or figuratively on the web. Surprising tight spots, hardly imaginable until the encounter. And you know it's absurd, but there it is, in your face and it's “the real deal”, no matter how phony you know it is.
And anyone with the slightest remnant of honor and self esteem is going to be riled - this is not just, this is not how a sane world operates. So now what? We all hang our heads and glance furtively from side to side.
Does anybody see what just happened? Is there anyone here but us sheep? No, no one, because we live in a sheep pen, and we pretend we are free. But we aren't are we. Because there's no business like bullshit, and it's business as usual.
And we look on the fictional character of Howard Beal, and shower praise and accolades, and shout {silently in our hearts} “I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore.” but we know it's just like the movie, this IS the movie, and it is all bullshit – we are going to take what's dished out. Aren't we.
“Live free or die”??? C'mon, we all know we live compromised and THEN we die. So here we are in metamorphose...
..almost Kafka's cockroaches, scurrying the scurrilous underbrush of the Psycho-world psycho-ward...in our 'cocoons of delusions'.
“Everybody knows the bad guys won...”~Leonard Cohen
Yea, everybody knows.~ww
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I appreciate your understanding, Willy.
ReplyDeletewordpress took down Food Freedom without warning -- no prior email to me, no questions asked -- for violating their TOS.
we cleared it up, but I take it as a warning.
Rady... you are perhaps reaching that level of success that must not be tolerated in the world "they" wish to bring to fruition. Perhaps, you may discover after all what it was that induced Rob to turn from the truth path... that coward.
ReplyDeleteyeah, i have no doubt what induced him.
ReplyDeletewhen I got back involved politically in 2004 (after a 20-yr hiatus), I had so many convos with the other side that I actually left town without telling anyone and moved 1,500 miles away.
I'm sure they know where I am now, but I shook a lot of bugs off me that way
I had a lawyer friend once tell me that "they hold all the levers of power"
I keep hoping he's wrong.
Well he is right, but he's wrong because he speaks of a power that has no place in natural law.
ReplyDeleteIt's pretty hard, after taking the red pill to find out that it was just a candy coated blue pill isn't it?
ReplyDeleteThese aren't the plains...this is the corral with the fences hallucinated away.
we saw a glimpse today...tall fences they are with inward facing razorwire toppings of carmel and fudge.
Wanda reminds me of a lady named Andrea I met on Amazon forum years ago...I was banished from there - twice under two monikers. Andrea turned into a dissident after 9/11, I suppose like a lot of people did.
Anyway, welcome Wanda...er at least you are a new one to me...
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I can drink it for You ?
ReplyDeleteBy all means... i have some homemade honey mead my son made here... i'll toast to you.
ReplyDeleteWilliam Whitten... i am honored that i remind you of someone. I am someone you might remember actually... I used to post on OpEd News as Bucketslogg.
ReplyDeleteYou, I, Rady, Puddy Dunne, Jersey Girl and some couple others were doing battle against the likes of those bone heads who were for vaccines for all... why not? You know, the like of those who are still there... the bought paid for. Although, i am reluctant to say all of them... although...
I love it... it's kind of like i left my ghost in the machine. And, while i went out of the blogging loop for a time, I always missed the interaction with all of you. The Rob thing really hurt at a time i was also undergoing some pretty devastating personal issues. The Rob thing coupled with my personal strife, really shook the roots of my existence. I'm in a much better place today, odd to say.
I am very pleased you noticed William.
Oh my dear Wanda. You've just identified yourself as white al-qaeda. You don't want to be in debt, working for the banks and eating GMO? You terrorist!
ReplyDeleteThe next thing you'll say is that you like freedom. :)
Welcome Wanda! I recall Bucketslogg postings. Cheers to you for getting your groove back, and Wanda-ring into this forest where you can truly see the trees. It is an inspiring place, full of wanderful creatures... we howl at the moon, we run with the wind, we sing at the top of our lungs, we embrace truth like our kin.
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Thanks Boomer... it is nice to be here. What name at OpEd did you used to post under? I would like to be able to place you as well... i hope it isn't the flu-shot poster boy... but, if it is, that would mean a success story (another success story) for this site.
ReplyDeleteNice play on my name... wander-ring, wanders-by, won-ton, wanda wanda wanda wanda who... who wrote the book of love. Can you believe i used to hate my name when younger? My personal favorite is Magic Wanda.. i become that.
Peace, love, truth and mercy to all. God bless and godspeed.
i loves me some freedom...
ReplyDeleteYeah, they do trail the hell out of Fla. I moved from Colorado to upstate NY about a year and a half ago. Lived in the mountains, in a ski tourist town... That place is scorched earth, all of Colorado is... yet, the up and comers fail to see it. One year all the birds disappeared and i kept pointing it out... "Hey, where are the birds?", but just got wiggly eyed stares in response.
ReplyDeleteMy son came to Colo. to help me move out of my home of 11 years... the culmination of twenty years with the man i believed was the reason for the sun rising in the morning. Apparently, having an awake wife was bad for his image... he still sleeps. Back to my original point, crossing the state line was like night and day, flipping a switch, dead plants, gray and brown landscapes into Oz practically. I will never forget it. Colorado trees are dying from the top down... and morphing in ways i've not seen in nature before.
Ewwww I hate it too Rady.. My new one is much nicer :)
ReplyDeleteTom Murphy.
ReplyDeleteWoo Hoo, Epithet, Blasphemy, TomFoolery, that's Heelarious, aye?!
{ That was a quick comic interlude cuz I needed a hoot }
Not too much change in mi moniker Ms. W -- I was/is "Boomerang". When I finally found these fine folks again at COTO, some other Wordpress plagiarizer had already appropriated my moniker. Schfitznfirts!
So, I henceforth became "Boomerangcomesback"...'cause they do! And so did I. The original intent of using Boomerang, which began on Smirkingchimp, was coupled with the phrase of my inspiration -- "Your words and actions will return to you". Karmic. Voila! "Boomerang".
Cheers!
I posted with My actual name, John Riggs I was new to the shitsphere.
ReplyDeletemuch bettah!
ReplyDeleteWanda !! Soooooooooooo glad you're here with us :)
ReplyDeleteMe too. It lends credence to that expression "you are exactly where you need to be" because i know i am among people who are only trying to do the same thing as i am, with honesty and integrity and no hidden motives. The gathering of the souls. Thank you Jersey.
ReplyDeleteBucketslogg, aha, yes'm indeedie, I bemember ye. And I too am so glad to have you back in der COTOfold.
ReplyDeleteWELCOME in caps to ya...
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I vas William Whitten then...har har, but I ain'ts now...to protect the innocence and all dats.
Funny...I got punked by the fates just around the time of the Kall ban too, It took sum time for me to reorganize and get back on and up here on CTO Cloud 9.
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Korn, I'm 60 and if someone asks for my id to by cig's I'll walk out of the store.
ReplyDeleteFortunately, I buy as much as I can from onr of those mom and pop stores owned by a Lybian family. Not only do i never get pressur, as I buy my rolling papers, pipes and screens there also. Shop local.
By the way, I don't have the room for a tobacco farms but I'd like to get my hands on some "seeds" for another product. They want $100. for 10 seeds from amsterdam.
What has this world come to??
$100!!!
ReplyDeleteOMFG!
My sentiments exactly, Rady. Rip off of we stupid amerikans, no doubt.
ReplyDeleteIf anyone is saving seeds, let's talk,, privately.
By the way, you still have your same pic from way back. Don't change it,, it's very pretty. You and Deb are a definite asset to coto, in more ways than one.
(I hope that wasn't sexist, not intended)
not offended; thx for the kudos. that pic is from 2003 when I achieved a life time goal: being inducted into a Greek Honor Society at college.
ReplyDeleteI used it in 2005 for litigation I was involved in; they wanted pix of the players (I served as paralegal), so my physical anonymity was blown then.
So I decided that would be the last image of me to be posted to the web. It's probably when I peaked physically (as in lookin' good), so it's a nice memory ... lol.
Everything I grow is under the watchful eye of my father who is a drug & alcohol addiction counselor
So everything I grow is edible (by me or butterflies)
I think i missed you most of all Scarecrow. I recall we were like minded in most instances.
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*my late response is only due to being away from computer most of the day.
I too come from Opednews, where I was the nearly the same handle as here...wxman. posted a few links to articles, an original piece on 9-11, and some diaries.
ReplyDeleteNever was thrown off, but eventually cancelled my memebership and erased my entries as I left, after all the good people were gone. Found COTO by accident from an article posted on another site by a COTO member (I disremember who) that led here.
I see my real name comes up here now, instead of my handle...must of changed something when I changed my gravatar recently. How do I change it back?
ReplyDeleteMy Darlin wife has a page and she was shoing me some family pictures (why anyone would want to put their pic out there to a coupla million strangers is way beyond me),, I should talk, huh?
ReplyDeleteAnyway, there was a comment on there by a friend about how proud we should be of our military.
We,, havin a buzz on , and my bif mouth, I went into a 'slight' tirade about how anyone who is joinin the militaary today is just contributing to the industrial war complex and there's absolutely nothing to be proud of for being a mindlesss robot.
Cindy wouldn't talk to me until I deleted it.
I guess that's what I get for going on facebook and telling the truth rather thandoing what everyone there does.; "I'm wearing a blue dress today and when I bend over you can see my whole ass.. I'm sooo naughty,,,,teee hee"
I meant to say"me", not "we",, haqvin a buzz and responding.
ReplyDeleteExcuse my typing,please, I'mm havin an extermely 'shaky'day
"There is no greater slave than the one who thinks he is free"
ReplyDeleteWhat a terrific idea Wanda. All I ever thought about was my own weed.
ReplyDeleteWhat kind of conditions do you need? I'm in central fl and all we have is sand whicch washed up on the shore.
I'll trade ya my Kid for some homemade wine.
ReplyDeleteSorry,kids are a liability,and we are on one-child policy.
ReplyDeleteI'll take the goat and send you some tobacco seeds and homemade apple/honey mead... deal?
ReplyDeleteI am responding to Peter, although, i can't find the post where he asks me about growing tobacco plants in Florida... that's odd... anyways...
ReplyDeleteThe seeds are extremely small. Get yourself some of those small pots for sprouting (you know, the thin plastic eight section thingies you get from plant stores with sprouted flowers and such in)... fill with dirt and drop one to three seeds on top of the dirt in each section , set on a tray and water by filling the tray w/water FROM THE BOTTOM... keep the soil moist, but not sogging wet, watering ever couple of days or so. After about two to three weeks or so you will have tiny plants that you can transplant outdoors.
I live in upstate NY, it is like the garden of eden here, and i am new to gardening. My plants are actually growing in a friend's garden because i don't have the space. I wouldn't have a clue as to how to grow them down where you're at.
Thank's Wanda,
ReplyDeletevery kind of you. I guess I'll have to get some good topsoil and manure and build a sandbox.
I'm sorry Rady,
ReplyDeleteYou know I luv ya but I don't understand. Why delete anything on coto. If it's the truth, wat's the problem?My mind is open so if you'd like to help me understand, I'd appreciate it.
Pls don't be insultedby my asking,, you know I'm a bit dense sometime.
Rady, m'Lady,
ReplyDeleteI feel like I'm in a time warp.
It's realy good stuff.
Ignore my post questioning your decision and I apologize. I've been away for a few of my days and I'm reacting to posts as I go along, then, I go back to reading and find the issue has been resolved.
P, jg and Rady, have you been satisfied with the service here lately? Logging is is like cracking a safe, my password vever woks and it takes half an hour to get re-arranged. Is ther anything keeping us here playing by their rules?
Again, Please don't ever take offense to my questions, none is intended and if you tell me that it's none of my business, I, too, will take no offense
Hs anyone else had problems when responding to a post with a litte bit of length to it?
You could grow them in 5 gallon buckets... one plant per bucket, they get large.
ReplyDeletepeter, you're in central fl? I'm in ft lauderdale
ReplyDeletehere's fl advice on growing tobacco http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/aa260
all is good.
ReplyDeleteI have no trouble with logging in or using wordpress
nah, it's already out there. too late
ReplyDeleteand I'm just simply not that cute any more
he posted what could easily be construed as a threat to another commenter, which violates the TOS.
ReplyDeletesomewhere in here I said that wordpress once took down my other site, Food Freedom, with absolutely no warning and no prior email ...
so they do it. we just got to be careful about some things.
Thanks for posting that article Rady... although, the curing thing, i think, is exaggerated. We cured ours for three weeks, it was not a problem in the least... the stuff tastes great and has nicotine to spare. When we have more, we will cure it longer, maybe it will make some difference, but it really is good to go the way we did it.
ReplyDeleteoh, yeah, I'm gonna follow your heed and only cure it a short time
ReplyDeleteI think they must be grown under 75% shade.
ReplyDeleteOurs are 6' tall now and are being grown if full sun... of course, this is new york the sun is different than in other places... for instance, it is real hard to get a sunburn here (not impossible, but very difficult)... not true if i were in florida, and in colorado i burn in no time flat.
ReplyDeleteI wonder, too, if there isn't some (lots) propaganda out there to make it appear to be much more difficult than other crops. It is after all, a highly controlled cash crop.
and i add... the leaves we already harvested, and smoked, were the lower ones that were hanging down onto the dirt. We were very happy with the quality, and taste of our product.
ReplyDeleteWow. You must have a difficult time getting "small".
ReplyDeletePersonally, I'd probably be at war all of the time if there was too much intrusion.
I wish she were a goat, we'd probably get along much better as I am like an animal magnet, I luv'em.
ReplyDeleteBut I'm willing to barter, I don't know what but I'd like to give it a try with a few plants.
I just can't believe that! I'll bet you're a knockout!
ReplyDeleteDoes any one else have a problem when leaving a reply?
Hey rogue,
ReplyDeleteThank the lawyers. All that matters in ameriKa are sound bites. Blurbs. Joe the Plumber. The zombies luv'em. There is no context, it's too timely to take the time to read an article. I'm surprised I haven't had a visit from the ss with some of my statements. It takes all the pleasure out of venting a justified dispute on a subject, only to have it taken down or edited.
Shades of robcall
this site is startin to suck
Hey Wanda, I remember you,, I was alwy's pissed at THOSe people. and as far as I'm concerned, go ahead and say them out loud. They're still here and they're still assholes and they know who they are. Now, they're just a petty nuisence but a nuisence nonetheless.
ReplyDeleteIf it's ok, I'll email you my address. I don't need man as I have limited space.
You are a very kind person.
Damn Rady, It would be great to meet you.
ReplyDeleteI uesd to spend a lot of time in south Fl when I worked. I had 2 shops in miami, 1 in Lauderdale. I was there for a week at a time spending night in Holiday Inns mostly. My Miami shops were in Liberty City which I fit right in and I truly enjoyed many of the people I met but nights were lonely as I don't do clubs and things. Never my scene unless I got stoned and needed a good laugh.
If you're ever planning a trip this way let me know I think you may have my email add. if not , let me know,, I think I have yours.