I truly enjoyed this interview yesterday. Listened to it between other tasks.
Cindy is a heroine to me. She is what she is... honest, forthright, truthful and Accurate.
I wish there were a way to listen to her show.... I'll be trying to figure out how .. but would appreciate any help from those more astute with the internet than me...
AJ again. Thanks for the mention. I'll make a point of listening to a recording of this. I really really enjoy listening to AJ's voice but as you may be aware, I am of the opinion he is a spearhead.
I think you need to explain your "spearhead" theory. It's a good one. It's grist for an entire article... written by you.
Part of the nature of psyops is co-opting the Truth... admit to some of it... then slip in some "Trojan Horses." I'm not saying that either CS or AJ are "tools."
But I DO think that when TPTB (The Powers That Be) recognize the tide turning against their prevailing paradigm, they are smart enough to shift footing... and offer funding to dissident voices that are getting attention.
Purrr..... yea wall," turfing ", for political, advertising, or public relations campaigns seeking to create the impression of being spontaneous "grassroots" behavior, hence the reference to the artificial grass, AstroTurf.
purr.... The "Tea Parties" were a perfect example. Olame'a is another example, the sheople fall for it every time.... purrrr.....
You guys are giving AJ too much credit. The man still does his own radio commercials and has to beg for extra money once a year to fund his radio show. He's been on air for over a decade now. If he were being funded by TPTB I'd have to think he'd have Rush Limpball status by now.
The real person to watch is Glenn Beck. Now THERE is your nwo operative.
I have to admit that Cindy appears less on her game. I love her dearly and always thought that Casey and Pat Tillman were the arrows to the heart of the issue.
But there was something strange about the interview and I will have to review it again. Is anyone feeling a bit more foggy these days?
Patrick, I thought Cindy sounded like Cindy. I'm not sure what you're referring to. Can you elaborate your feelings after reveiwing it a second time? I'll try to do the same to see if I notice something unusual myself.
As far as feeling a bit more foggy these days. It's probably the chemtrails. They've been working overtime the past few months and everyone I talk, to in all age groups, has been feeling tired and sluggish and just not that well lately
I wouldn't label this as a "great" interview. On the other hand, AJ does make mention (part 2) of the spearhead tactic I mentioned above, albeit without using the word "spearhead" which is a term I personally implement in writings and discussions surrounding info wars.
For further information, see US Army FM 3-13 which should serve as a basis for future discussion/debate.
It strikes me as contradictary (for someone) to first mention the right/left paradigm, how there is no right or left and in the same breath continue to make use of the terms to make a point. Part 2 again.
How can you discuss politics at all without referring to the left or right? Even though you know the left/right paradigm should be shattered, it still exists. One has to "make use of the terms" to define the groups you're speaking of.
I still don't get what you mean by "spearhead". I'll have to look up the army term you're referring to when I have more time. Spearhead to me means to lead an operation...
JG, I noticed the contradiction and added a comment mentioning it ....in direct reponse to Puddy's comment. Other than being a walking contradiction as most of us are, Cindy appeared to me to be her "normal" self during this interview. It is possible to talk politics without making use of the right/left terms just as it is equally possible to hold a conversation without referring to or defining gender. Yes, it is and "yes, we can".
The term "spearhead", I would only indirectly associate with the US Army but only because I'm aware of the 3rd AD, aka "Spearhead". My use of the term when speaking of AJ or Info Wars or the US Army FM I mentioned has nothing to do with the 3rd AD.....
BUT ! It has everything in the world to do with a person leading an organisation, or a movement. Here's an excerpt as a teaser;
1-27. Perception Management. Perception management consists of actions to convey and/or deny selected information and indicators to foreign audiences to influence their emotions, motives, and objective reasoning; and to intelligence systems and leaders at all levels to influence official estimates, ultimately resulting in foreign behaviors and official actions favorable to the originator’s objectives. In various ways, perception management combines truth projection, operations security, cover, deception, and psychological operations (JP 3-13). Some adversaries will target friendly forces and interests with perception management activities, such as propaganda and deception, to undermine their will to fight or resist. These activities can take many forms, from civilian media broadcasts to special operations forces strikes.
INFORMATION SUPERIORITY 1-36. The Army defines information superiority as the operational advantage derived from the ability to collect, process, and disseminate an uninterrupted flow of information while exploiting or denying an adversary’s ability to do the same (FM 3-0). This definition differs slightly from the joint definition. While joint doctrine considers information superiority a capability, Army doctrine establishes it as an operational advantage. For Army forces, information superiority describes the degree of dominance that commanders have over the part of the information environment that affects their operations, and over the adversary. Commanders measure it in terms of information- based activities. Gaining and maintaining information superiority creates conditions that allow commanders to shape the information environment and enhance the effects of other elements of combat power. Commanders direct three interdependent contributors to achieve this goal: • Information management. • Intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance. • Information operations (including related activities).
To gain control of the flow of information is to become the "spearhead" of the source of said information. This is me talking here, curt, not the FM. The above two excerpts from US Army FM 3-13 should suffice for us to get a better picture of deception tactics used on the civilian population by Agencies or supporting poxy groups and/or individuals, a better picture of tactics NOT outlined in 3-13 and NOT readily available to either you nor me.
It's a gut feeling thing. I listened to AJ almost daily for well over a year when it struck me like a hammer. Sorry, JG but I'm only trying to be helpful and I really do have my doubts about stuff I hear and read. Yip. Sure do. I repeat : I have my doubts.
Have doubts? Of course I have doubts same as you. I also had doubts about AJ. In fact, Mr M and I had a conversation about this very topic a few months ago over the phone. We both came to the same conclusion. We don't think he's an operative.
Am I certain? Of course not. I don't fully trust anyone in the media nor do I take any one person's word as gospel no matter who it is. The important thing is to get your news from many sources and keep an open mind. I enjoy listening to AJ and the guests he has on. Do I believe in or follow everything he says? Oh hell no. But I agree with his views more than not.
So let me just ask you. What do you think AJ is trying to do?... lead us to the fema camps for the nwo?
How kind of all others to wait for my reply before adding more ;-)
JG; "What do you think AJ is trying to do?… lead us to the fema camps for the nwo?"
Curt: I wanna call my lawyer.
No, but really, your question implies I have an opinion of what AJ would be up to if he were indeed the infowar agent I suspect he is. Suspicion is not equal to accusation. AJ's a big boy and I know he can take my criticism along with all the rest he gets.
To find an appropriate answer to your quesion, all I have to do is to go back and copy & paste what I've already written here.
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INFORMATION SUPERIORITY 1-36. The Army defines information superiority as the operational advantage derived from the ability to collect, process, and disseminate an uninterrupted flow of information while exploiting or denying an adversary’s ability to do the same (FM 3-0).
The last version of the FM spelled it out in much better words. Regretfully, that version is no longer available and I didn't keep the copy I had - on my PC. I may have quoted the passage in question on one of my older blogs but I really don't recall. The term "spearheading" is what I call the FM's tactic of a) identifying a threatful source of info flow and b) becoming part of it in able to c) take the lead.
Whatever Curt Tony.. I dont think he's a disinfo agent (even tho the thought crossed my mind a while back) If he were he'd be throwing people off the trail instead of smack on to it. Plus, wouldn't they have made sure he has a bigger more mainstream audience to lure into his nwo trap, not just his internet and texan audience? If this is military intelligence at work, it's pretty lame in my book
Anyway, we shall agree to disagree as the world falls in upon our heads. That is my final 2 cents worth.. I'm moving on now :)
I have not implied AJ is "military intelligence". You may have interpreted this or derived this conclusion from my 'example' (US Army FM 3-13). I explicitly said it was an example and a basis to work off of.
I just love how my words are stretched to fit others pictures.
My name is Curt btw. You can call me Tony. Or Tony Curt. Duzzint matter to me. Just call me! LOL. Joke.
JG; "I dont think he’s a disinfo agent (even tho the thought crossed my mind a while back) If he were he’d be throwing people off the trail instead of smack on to it. Plus, wouldn’t they have made sure he has a bigger more mainstream audience to lure into his nwo trap, not just his internet and texan audience? If this is military intelligence at work, it’s pretty lame in my book"
IF AJ threw YOU off the "trail" today, would he still hold the "spearhead" position?
Disinfo Agents / Operatives will work WITH the truth, 99.9998% of the time. How the hell are we to know where the Agents lead us astray? I have great examples but more along the 95% line.
Fact is, the truth is the conduit disinfo agents use to swim in.
imho, AJ has a HUGE audience. Just look at this ( http://cotocrew.wordpress.com/about/ ) , point 11 e.g. His message sufficed to qualify as part of COTO's call of creed.
lol... geez.. u don't give up do you? You have nothing to go on other than your gut instinct. That's what I'm using as well. Mine tells me he's ok. I like the guests he has on and I like his style. I get my news from varied sources so don't worry, I'm not easily led by pied pipers ;)
As far as the coto creed goes, not everyone agrees with listening to AJ or many other things on that list. It's just a guideline and an illustration that coto does not buy into the whole left/right paradigm. Like it says, if you agree with three or more, you're coto. Perhaps I should have included listening to Amy Goodman instead.
I truly enjoyed this interview yesterday. Listened to it between other tasks.
ReplyDeleteCindy is a heroine to me. She is what she is... honest, forthright, truthful and Accurate.
I wish there were a way to listen to her show.... I'll be trying to figure out how .. but would appreciate any help from those more astute with the internet than me...
Sweeeeetttt..
ReplyDeleteAJ and Cindy Sheehan.
Does it really get better tan this?
Thanks Jersey
My pleasure Michael. Nobody does it better than Alex and Cindy ;)
ReplyDeleteYea Richard, I'm a huge fan of Cindy's as well. She said she'd be doing a new radio show in Dallas but you can listen here.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.cindysheehanssoapbox.com
Just click on archives.
Oh boy.
ReplyDeleteAJ again. Thanks for the mention. I'll make a point of listening to a recording of this. I really really enjoy listening to AJ's voice but as you may be aware, I am of the opinion he is a spearhead.
Never mind.
Curt:
ReplyDeleteI think you need to explain your "spearhead" theory. It's a good one. It's grist for an entire article... written by you.
Part of the nature of psyops is co-opting the Truth... admit to some of it... then slip in some "Trojan Horses." I'm not saying that either CS or AJ are "tools."
But I DO think that when TPTB (The Powers That Be) recognize the tide turning against their prevailing paradigm, they are smart enough to shift footing... and offer funding to dissident voices that are getting attention.
It's just a matter of "hedging your bet."
Purrr..... yea wall," turfing ", for political, advertising, or public relations campaigns seeking to create the impression of being spontaneous "grassroots" behavior, hence the reference to the artificial grass, AstroTurf.
ReplyDeletepurr.... The "Tea Parties" were a perfect example. Olame'a is another example, the sheople fall for it every time.... purrrr.....
You guys are giving AJ too much credit. The man still does his own radio commercials and has to beg for extra money once a year to fund his radio show. He's been on air for over a decade now. If he were being funded by TPTB I'd have to think he'd have Rush Limpball status by now.
ReplyDeleteThe real person to watch is Glenn Beck. Now THERE is your nwo operative.
I have to admit that Cindy appears less on her game. I love her dearly and always thought that Casey and Pat Tillman were the arrows to the heart of the issue.
ReplyDeleteBut there was something strange about the interview and I will have to review it again. Is anyone feeling a bit more foggy these days?
Odd, very odd.
Patrick, I thought Cindy sounded like Cindy. I'm not sure what you're referring to. Can you elaborate your feelings after reveiwing it a second time? I'll try to do the same to see if I notice something unusual myself.
ReplyDeleteAs far as feeling a bit more foggy these days. It's probably the chemtrails. They've been working overtime the past few months and everyone I talk, to in all age groups, has been feeling tired and sluggish and just not that well lately
I wouldn't label this as a "great" interview. On the other hand, AJ does make mention (part 2) of the spearhead tactic I mentioned above, albeit without using the word "spearhead" which is a term I personally implement in writings and discussions surrounding info wars.
ReplyDeleteFor further information, see US Army FM 3-13 which should serve as a basis for future discussion/debate.
It strikes me as contradictary (for someone) to first mention the right/left paradigm, how there is no right or left and in the same breath continue to make use of the terms to make a point. Part 2 again.
ReplyDeleteHow can you discuss politics at all without referring to the left or right? Even though you know the left/right paradigm should be shattered, it still exists. One has to "make use of the terms" to define the groups you're speaking of.
ReplyDeleteI still don't get what you mean by "spearhead". I'll have to look up the army term you're referring to when I have more time. Spearhead to me means to lead an operation...
JG, I noticed the contradiction and added a comment mentioning it ....in direct reponse to Puddy's comment. Other than being a walking contradiction as most of us are, Cindy appeared to me to be her "normal" self during this interview. It is possible to talk politics without making use of the right/left terms just as it is equally possible to hold a conversation without referring to or defining gender. Yes, it is and "yes, we can".
ReplyDeleteThe term "spearhead", I would only indirectly associate with the US Army but only because I'm aware of the 3rd AD, aka "Spearhead". My use of the term when speaking of AJ or Info Wars or the US Army FM I mentioned has nothing to do with the 3rd AD.....
BUT ! It has everything in the world to do with a person leading an organisation, or a movement. Here's an excerpt as a teaser;
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1-27. Perception Management. Perception management consists of actions
to convey and/or deny selected information and indicators to foreign audiences
to influence their emotions, motives, and objective reasoning; and to
intelligence systems and leaders at all levels to influence official estimates,
ultimately resulting in foreign behaviors and official actions favorable to the
originator’s objectives. In various ways, perception management combines
truth projection, operations security, cover, deception, and psychological operations
(JP 3-13). Some adversaries will target friendly forces and interests with
perception management activities, such as propaganda and deception, to
undermine their will to fight or resist. These activities can take many forms,
from civilian media broadcasts to special operations forces strikes.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
INFORMATION SUPERIORITY
1-36. The Army defines information superiority as the operational advantage
derived from the ability to collect, process, and disseminate an uninterrupted
flow of information while exploiting or denying an adversary’s ability
to do the same (FM 3-0). This definition differs slightly from the joint definition.
While joint doctrine considers information superiority a capability, Army
doctrine establishes it as an operational advantage. For Army forces, information
superiority describes the degree of dominance that commanders
have over the part of the information environment that affects their operations,
and over the adversary. Commanders measure it in terms of information-
based activities. Gaining and maintaining information superiority creates
conditions that allow commanders to shape the information environment
and enhance the effects of other elements of combat power. Commanders direct
three interdependent contributors to achieve this goal:
• Information management.
• Intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance.
• Information operations (including related activities).
................................................................................................................................................
To gain control of the flow of information is to become the "spearhead" of the source of said information. This is me talking here, curt, not the FM. The above two excerpts from US Army FM 3-13 should suffice for us to get a better picture of deception tactics used on the civilian population by Agencies or supporting poxy groups and/or individuals, a better picture of tactics NOT outlined in 3-13 and NOT readily available to either you nor me.
It's a gut feeling thing. I listened to AJ almost daily for well over a year when it struck me like a hammer. Sorry, JG but I'm only trying to be helpful and I really do have my doubts about stuff I hear and read. Yip. Sure do. I repeat : I have my doubts.
Have doubts? Of course I have doubts same as you. I also had doubts about AJ. In fact, Mr M and I had a conversation about this very topic a few months ago over the phone. We both came to the same conclusion. We don't think he's an operative.
ReplyDeleteAm I certain? Of course not. I don't fully trust anyone in the media nor do I take any one person's word as gospel no matter who it is. The important thing is to get your news from many sources and keep an open mind. I enjoy listening to AJ and the guests he has on. Do I believe in or follow everything he says? Oh hell no. But I agree with his views more than not.
So let me just ask you. What do you think AJ is trying to do?... lead us to the fema camps for the nwo?
How kind of all others to wait for my reply before adding more ;-)
ReplyDeleteJG; "What do you think AJ is trying to do?… lead us to the fema camps for the nwo?"
Curt: I wanna call my lawyer.
No, but really, your question implies I have an opinion of what AJ would be up to if he were indeed the infowar agent I suspect he is. Suspicion is not equal to accusation. AJ's a big boy and I know he can take my criticism along with all the rest he gets.
To find an appropriate answer to your quesion, all I have to do is to go back and copy & paste what I've already written here.
——————————————————————————————————————-
INFORMATION SUPERIORITY
1-36. The Army defines information superiority as the operational advantage
derived from the ability to collect, process, and disseminate an uninterrupted
flow of information while exploiting or denying an adversary’s ability
to do the same (FM 3-0).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The last version of the FM spelled it out in much better words. Regretfully, that version is no longer available and I didn't keep the copy I had - on my PC. I may have quoted the passage in question on one of my older blogs but I really don't recall. The term "spearheading" is what I call the FM's tactic of a) identifying a threatful source of info flow and b) becoming part of it in able to c) take the lead.
What more can I say? Cheese us all to ryebread.
Whatever Curt Tony.. I dont think he's a disinfo agent (even tho the thought crossed my mind a while back) If he were he'd be throwing people off the trail instead of smack on to it. Plus, wouldn't they have made sure he has a bigger more mainstream audience to lure into his nwo trap, not just his internet and texan audience? If this is military intelligence at work, it's pretty lame in my book
ReplyDeleteAnyway, we shall agree to disagree as the world falls in upon our heads. That is my final 2 cents worth.. I'm moving on now :)
JG, you're "moving on"? The fun has just begun!
ReplyDeleteI have not implied AJ is "military intelligence". You may have interpreted this or derived this conclusion from my 'example' (US Army FM 3-13). I explicitly said it was an example and a basis to work off of.
I just love how my words are stretched to fit others pictures.
My name is Curt btw. You can call me Tony. Or Tony Curt. Duzzint matter to me. Just call me! LOL. Joke.
JG; "I dont think he’s a disinfo agent (even tho the thought crossed my mind a while back) If he were he’d be throwing people off the trail instead of smack on to it. Plus, wouldn’t they have made sure he has a bigger more mainstream audience to lure into his nwo trap, not just his internet and texan audience? If this is military intelligence at work, it’s pretty lame in my book"
IF AJ threw YOU off the "trail" today, would he still hold the "spearhead" position?
Disinfo Agents / Operatives will work WITH the truth, 99.9998% of the time. How the hell are we to know where the Agents lead us astray? I have great examples but more along the 95% line.
Fact is, the truth is the conduit disinfo agents use to swim in.
imho, AJ has a HUGE audience. Just look at this ( http://cotocrew.wordpress.com/about/ ) , point 11 e.g. His message sufficed to qualify as part of COTO's call of creed.
I rest my case.
lol... geez.. u don't give up do you? You have nothing to go on other than your gut instinct. That's what I'm using as well. Mine tells me he's ok. I like the guests he has on and I like his style. I get my news from varied sources so don't worry, I'm not easily led by pied pipers ;)
ReplyDeleteAs far as the coto creed goes, not everyone agrees with listening to AJ or many other things on that list. It's just a guideline and an illustration that coto does not buy into the whole left/right paradigm. Like it says, if you agree with three or more, you're coto. Perhaps I should have included listening to Amy Goodman instead.
K? nuff said?? Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa !
JG, I be, like a Gila Monster. I seldom bite but when I do, I don't let go.
ReplyDeleteYou're right and I have my peace of mind knowing that.
BUT I HAD TO TELLYA !
Do we have to burn all our infowars T-shirts now? (joke)